Alex Smith wrote:
> VMiklos wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 05:39:12PM +0000, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> 1) Services in Runit *need* to have the daemon running in the foreground. 
>>> This is a 
>>> *big* problem with some daemons that do not support being run in the 
>>> foreground. They 
>>> could not be used with runit's service management.
>>>       
>> almost all daemons have such a switch and if one does not then we can
>> add one - upstream will accept such a patch imho
>>
>>     

Well no Alex is right with this some stuff won't work at all. I've
already made some patches local and added some hacks
to get some things wroking.

>>> 2) Runit will respawn a service if it dies, no matter what. This can be 
>>> good in some 
>>> cases, for example servers that cannot be monitored all the time - this is 
>>> what the 
>>> feature was designed for. However, if you have foo service that for any 
>>> reason is not 
>>> working, and just exits at startup, Runit will constantly be trying to 
>>> restart it. This 
>>> can really bog down desktop systems. There is no system of "if it dies x 
>>> times within y 
>>> minutes, give up for z minutes"
>>>       
>> hm. init handles this in the following way: try to start 5 times, then
>> sleep for 5 mins (maybe the numbers are configurable)
>>
>> if runit does not have such a feature, then i would suggest mail the
>> author if he likes such a feature or not. if yes, then we could request
>> this feature or create a patch for it then send it to the author
>>     
>
> Done that already, they all consider it to be "bloat", which IMO is a 
> little idiotic
>
>   

Yes , agreed it is :P


Well , anyway I don't like this up_foo , ( not because of ****buntu )
I've told you this already on IRC.
I think whatever *I* or the other like it or whatever not you will still
try to get some up_foo && up_foo_init_scripts runnig on Frugalware,
so the best thing is to *backup* the runit repo and rm -rf it. Then
start working on up_foo. The other problem I have with up_foo are the bugs
and afaik even on ****buntu are some weird bugs , which just means
forget the new init system for 0.6 because is way to late ( already )
and up_foo
will need much more testing.

- crazy -

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