Alex Smith wrote:
> Gabriel C wrote:
>   
>>> You do not need to be an expert, once you learn how do do it, which took
>>> me about 10 mins to learn, it's easy.
>>>   
>>>       
>> you have too if you want *event* based init scripts ( maybe is why
>> ****buntu still does not full use this but a weird symlink && whatever
>> mix ).
>>     
>
> Blah. Total blah. It is perfectly easy. Say you want to respond to the 
> 'foo' event. Just do this
>
> on foo
>
> Voila.
>
>   
>> Of course we have to learn this bus is not the point and is not done in
>> 10 minutes even the up_foo devel does NOT know ( yet ) how to solve some
>> *event based stuff* ( is on up_foo ML && wiki ).
>>     
>
> That's why I'm talking with him right now.
>
>   
>> The other thing is up_foo *does NOT support splashy nor uspalsh with
>> this event stuff* 
>>     
>
> We're working on it.
>
>   
>> *and* with the *event* stuff you have to make the init
>> system depends()|rodepends() on 'udev,hal,dbus'. Shall I tell you more
>> odd stuff ? or you want figure yourself ?
>>     
>
> That is total BS. There is *NO* udev, hal, or dbus code in there at all. 
> really WTF are you talking about. It's done over a socket, not DBloatBus
>   


Brrrrrrr.
'with the sysvinit emulation shit based on runlevels* you don't need it
, *I said if you want a full based even one*.
This emulation fu** is *what* ununtu is running LOL!. Then again why to
hell use something
, *uses* the INIT|INIT STYLE WE DON'T WANT! brr brr brr

>   
>> Pls don't tell me now *but it can be done using sysvinit* I know this
>> but the point is *we want to change sysvinit* and not replace by
>> something add sysvinit back ...
>>     
>
> It's not a sysvinit hack... There is *NO* sysvinit code in there. Ok, it 
> was started from sysvinit, but gradually it was replaced with better 
> code. 

Whatever better code or not is a sysvinit *fork*.

> Actually reading about upstart in detail really helps. This 
> LugRadio episode might help - http://www.lugradio.org/episodes/61 - go 
> to 57 minutes into it, the Upstart developer is talking there.
>   
....
>> And again just do it , I don't want flame about I just think a 'init
>> system' should be small , fast , ( not having weird depends ) , easy to
>> understand ( not only for devels , think on server admins as example ) ,
>> of course is my opinion.
>>     
>
> No weird depends, depends on glibc, that's all.

In 'emulation modus' yes.


>  It's fast - at least, 
> performs better than sysvinit here. 

I don't really care whatever foo_init boots 2 or 3 secs faster or
whatever not.
At last on ubuntu is *slow* as hell.


> Server admins can understand it 
> easily 

We will see , I don't think so.


> - I'm actually going to write some documentation for Upstart.
>   
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>   

crazy



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