On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:25:46AM +0200, bouleetbil <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> When I update a box the "minimum" for me it's my system should start.
> 
> Result frugalware don't boot => kernel panic.
> I think we should patch menu.lst for add the initrd.

Right, grubconfig does this. Do you have any better idea than the news
entry on the website? Adding the initrd to the menu.lst automatically is
too problematic, that's why the decision was made not to touch menu.lst
from a post_upgrade scriptlet.

> I think we would bump, add some features too quickly and it's not
> enought tested. The result (I talk for me and probably some users)
> When I update my system I say what will be break with this update and
> It's not normal. (When I've choose to use frugalware it's also for the
> stability)

I think your current problem is about a scriptlet did not touch
automatically a config file - while usually we consider that a feature.

So in this particular case I don't think it's about too less testing.

Note that I actively try to control how much breakage do we have during
upgrades for each release - i.e. it was intentional that I did not want
dracut for 1.5, when we already caused enough problems for upgraders
with systemd.

> Before bump add some features we should fix missing packages into testsuite, 
> ruby bump is not finish since some months some ruby pkg are broken as 
> deprecated rubygems...

We already recommend doing such bumps in a WIP repo if it can't be
finished within a workday. So as long as we create a WIP repo for such
upgrades, it won't be a problem.

To sum up: I understand your frustration, but I think that's the best we
could do right now. Users not interested in testing should use stable,
where we always publish an upgrade guide, that contains instructions on
how to avoid a kernel panic on reboot.

BTW, if you read the news entry, I hope current will be usable for you
again. :)

Thanks.

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