On Monday 02 March 2009 18:21:33 Jason Clifford wrote: > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:10 +0000, John¹ wrote: > > Once again I would advise consulting a solicitor if you want to find > > out the precise position. > > To what ends? I have no interest in wasting my or UKFSN's money on > obtaining legal opinion unless I intend to try and obtain some specific > ends and that seems to be lacking here. > From that we can infer that you have no clear idea of what the exact legal position is, as others seem to be intent on execrating any effort that I and others have made it is increasingly likely that I may just seek help in winding up what is left and disposing of the monies in the AFFS account. > > > Again you would have to inform said solicitor that > > there was at least on person who had continued to pay to their > > membership fees, (which I think you'll find will complicate matters, > > (and therefore no doubt inflate the bill). > > It only complicate matters if it either means that AFFS continued to > exist on account of that or if you are using that to try and make things > harder and more expensive than they need to be. A couple of very simple > solutions have been suggested. If you have a particular problem with > them why not simply say what that is? > > > It was either you or UKFSN who has a £1000.00 donation in the AFFS > > bank account is it not? > > UKFSN donated £1,000 to AFFS for the purpose of establishing a UK Free > Software grant programme. I don't know whether any other donations were > specific to that or some other particular ends. > > > I think you'll find that my subscriptions to a dormant association may > > well be refundable. > > So ask for the money back. I'm fairly sure someone who used to be on the > Executive has already stated that this is no problem. > No, I don't want my money back, other than as a last resort, If it comes to winding up the AFFS, then the donations that are specific will, if I have anything to do with it go to the purpose for which they were given and the rest to the FSFE, or is your interest in recovering the £1000.00? > > > As this > > seems to be making me the target for so much work, just in reading and > > replying to the posts let alone looking into the need for new rules > > and investigating how to verify who was or was not a previous member, > > that it would be preferable were to employ a solicitor, (who may of > > course need Counsels opinion, which is quite a bit more than a > > solicitors fees, at least that was the case in the previous case I was > > involved in involving an unincorporated association), As Mark Eberhard > > writes it may now be in the best interests of every one to take legal > > advice. > > I agree that it is very likely that any solicitor you consult will > recommend obtaining Counsels opinion as solicitors do not tend to deal > directly with matters which may well be legally complex as this may. > Pursuing this route will be a really good way to waste £thousands. > I suggested that you consulted a solicitor, as it was you pontificating on the legal position. I have been involved in a similar case years ago, which is why I know about the responsibilities, and the separate and several liabilties of those involved. Councel was involved, it went to court, damages and costs were enormous, I was not on the losing side. > > The only person making you "the target for so much work" is you. > Indeed, and look at the thanks I've had so far, on the other hand a very few have made very positive contributions. State your interest in this clearly, and you may change my opinion.
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