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>let's go there anyway, and if hd moore doesn't comply, we can just >slap some sort of law on the license to make it against the law >not to >require that downloaders have the license. While we are at it, why don't we just impose government restrictions on all security related books and since a lot of the technical security issues can be found in computer science textbooks, lets impose a restriction on them as well. In addition, anything that someone might be able to learn something illegal or dangerous from should be restricted. Why don't we just force all citizens to stay inside! That'll work well too and lower the crime rate. What you are talking about is taking away our freedom and our rights to free speech. This issue is very similar to gun control, this would only keep the good people honest and give the criminals more rights than law abiding citizens. Criminals would still be just as capable of creating their own tools and using them. So you are only making life more difficult for people who actually try to defend against these attacks. I think if you did some research, which I know is a difficult thing for you to do, you'd find that the use of Metasploit contributes to a very minor percentage of crime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 3.0 wpwEAQMCAAYFAkjvY5YACgkQGwcl4JwqQeD2gAP/Yg7u7hTSUi8mhIK9lhP6FpPVkvxD F2qeEStAwZLyBGlbNyoTs6GH6981I1esdq1/aQWMZmtYhGC9SgC1amyrvZpnwilDXN70 IjqTnFVt7oKb3t9AZ1C3S/FrHa/VIp9s4HEGWhVCAr5wJN1jlXV+0lOkM/3l0nGCqj8Q FClFEMw= =Pa6L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/