Not even if I was wearing a pair of socks given to me from one of those beetle sellers :-)
Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 Office: (508)898-7102 Cell: (508)958-2780 email: blanchard_mich...@emc.com -----Original Message----- From: Drsolly [mailto:drsol...@drsolly.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:43 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Cc: kyle.cre...@gmail.com; funsec@linuxbox.org; rmsl...@shaw.ca Subject: RE: [funsec] Citizen cyber-protectors? What, even if loads of beetle-sellers told you how important it is? On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 michael.blanch...@emc.com wrote: > I'm part of the .5%.... I could care less about collecting beetles.... > > Michael P. Blanchard > Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE > Office of Information Security & Risk Management > EMC ² Corporation > 32 Coslin Drive > Southboro, MA 01772 > > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On > Behalf Of Kyle Creyts > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:25 AM > To: Drsolly > Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org; Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah; > infose...@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [funsec] Citizen cyber-protectors? > > > I am part of the 1%. > On Jul 19, 2012 2:31 AM, "Drsolly" > <drsol...@drsolly.com<mailto:drsol...@drsolly.com>> wrote: > If someone can't be bothered to write their thoughts down, and require me > to spend 20 minutes to watch a video giving views that I could have read > in one minute, then I'm not going to devote my time to listen to them. > > Since I haven't heard what he has to say, I cannot comment on his views. > Except to point out that 99% of people are as interested in computer > security as they are in beetle collecting. And anything that depends on > them being more interested than that, or better informed, is doomed. > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote: > > > Marc Goodman (who I believe is https://twitter.com/FutureCrimes and > > http://www.futurecrimes.com/ ) gave a recent TED talk on trends in the use > > of > > high technology in crime: > > > > http://www.ted.com/talks/marc_goodman_a_vision_of_crimes_in_the_future.html > > > > The 20 minute talk is frightening, with very little in the way of comfort > > for the > > protection or security side. He ends with a call for crowdsourcing of > > protection. > > > > Now as a transparent society/open source/full disclosure kind of guy, I > > like the > > general idea. But, as someone who has been involved in education, security > > awareness, and professional security training for some time, I see a few > > problems. > > For crowdsourcing to work, you need a critical mass of at least minimally > > capable > > people. When you are talking about a weather reporting app, that minimal > > capability isn't much. When you are talking about detecting cyberwar or > > bioweapons, the capability levels are a bit different. > > > > Just yesterday the PNWER (Pacific NorthWest Economic Region > > http://www.pnwer.org/ ) conference became the latest to bemoan the lack of > > trained employees. I rather suspect these constant complaints, since I see > > lots of > > people out of work. But the people who are whining about employees are just > > looking for network admins and such. We need people with more depth and > > more > > breadth in their backgrounds. I get CISSP candidates in my seminars who are > > network admins who simply want to know a few ACLS for firewalls. I have to > > keep telling them that security professionals need to know more than that. > > > > Yes, I am privileged to be able to meet a number who *are* interested in > > learning > > everything possible in order to meet any need or problem. But, relatively > > speaking, those are few. And my sample set tends to be abnormal, in that > > these > > are people who have already shown some interest in training (even if only > > job > > related). What Goodman is talking about is the general public. And those > > of us > > who have actually tried security awareness know how little conceptual > > awareness > > we have to build on, let alone advanced technical knowledge. > > > > I think awareness, self-protection, and crowdsourcing is probably the only > > good > > way to approach the problems Goodman outlines. I just worry that we have a > > long > > way to go. > > > > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/1793 > > > > ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) > > rsl...@vcn.bc.ca<mailto:rsl...@vcn.bc.ca> > > sl...@victoria.tc.ca<mailto:sl...@victoria.tc.ca> > > rsl...@computercrime.org<mailto:rsl...@computercrime.org> > > On Friday, January 23rd, 2004, in a speech at the World Economic > > Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Bill Gates stated `Two years from > > now, spam will be solved.' > > victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm<http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm> > > http://www.infosecbc.org/links > > http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ > > http://twitter.com/rslade > > _______________________________________________ > > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
