Now Hal he took his own cheap shots at the new "competition".  Good for the
goose.....

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD :)
Application Development
www.schoollink.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hal helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: cferror
>
>
> You're right, Steve: that is illogical and mean-spirited as well. John
> is a very decent person who sometimes comes across badly on email. I've
> publicly called him on this, but John has given an enormous amount to
> the Fusebox community, not the least of which is that John did the first
> write of the Fusebox 3 core file and nested layouts is John's baby,
> which he worked long and hard on. I think you might show a little
> respect.
>
> What you do with adoption of FuseQ or not is your business, but I think
> cheap shots like you've taken are completely uncalled for.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: cferror
>
>
> It isn't logical, but I am inclined to lean towards Fusium's approach
> just
> because John so consistently comes off as an ass on this list. I am sure
>
> that both approaches have legitimate merit.
>
> I actually had the opportunity to meet John at this year's Fusebox
> conference and talk to him for a few minutes. I was amazed to discover
> that
> in person he actually seems like a nice guy. John, when I met you I
> liked
> you. But your posts can be really annoying.
>
> Also, I went to techspedition.com and I found this line "note: the
> Techspedition fusebox core files carry a special license prerequisite".
> Interesting.
>
> At 02:17 PM 5/6/2002 +0800, you wrote:
> >Thanks guys,
> >
> >I feel like I'm in the middle of an ummm... difference of opinion? So
> >let me get this straight... In this corner, Techspedition have
> >implemented a coding method for advanced error handling, but it's not
> >released yet. In the other corner, FEX is a modified core file that has
>
> >custom API vars for error handling. What JohnQ here is subtly calling
> >"some new, unproven hot-fix". ouch.
> >
> >I'd love to try both of these approaches... they both sound very
> >interesting. But seeing as this site is going live in 12.4 seconds,
> >I'll stick with what I have so far, which is now working fine - I had
> >already figured out something along the lines of what JohnQ mentioned
> >with the suppresslayout vars.
> >
> >I can see that once again, it's going to get very interesting around
> >here...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Quarto-vonTivadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 1:37 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: cferror
> >
> >
> >Kay,
> >
> >I think you're making the right choice -- when a site is going live
> >into production the last thing you want to do is to start using some
> >new, unproven hot-fix that could well throw unexpected problems into
> >what is already a stressful situation.
> >
> >Since you're in a fix, one quick and dirty solution is you can use a
> >local variable such as suppresslayout which would normally be set to
> >FALSE in fbx_settings, and then where you had your cferror, instead of
> >using cfabort do <cfset suppresslayout = TRUE> and then in your
> >fbx_layouts do <cfif suppresslayout>  <cfset fusebox.layoutfile="">
> ></cfif>
> >
> >make sure this is in all the fbx_layouts files to the suppress will
> >"nest" on the way "up"
> >
> >one doesn't need to modify the core file in any way to handle the
> >simplest error trapping, such as what you've described needing, as long
>
> >as you stop the nested layout process from occuring which is what
> >suppresslayout does in the above example. That should at least get you
> >through Monday.
> >
> >If you wish to use a robust implementation to handle your bubbling
> >error and exception handling, then call me at the main number at
> >Techspedition.com on Monday after 3pm and before 10pm NYC time. Two
> >lines of code to achieve bubbling like that won't take long on the
> >phone
> >-- again the advantage being that anyone working with FuseQ doesn't
> have
> >to modify the core file or create new fusebox API variables for any
> sort
> >of bubbling exception handling -- that benefit derives naturally from
> >our implementation of the FB3 spec. that everyone is familiar with.
> Code
> >works out of the box, just like C code runs without incident in C++ ).
> >
> >p.s. The Synthis people demo'ed the newest version of Adalon this
> >weekend and it will *knock your socks off* with phenomenal support for
> >wireframing and pre-prototyping. Synthis also announced that the future
>
> >versions of Adalon will support FuseQ. When hard-core java people like
> >Synthis begin supporting and approving FuseQ, then I know we are on the
>
> >right track.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:22 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: cferror
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a site going live today. I've put a cferror tag in, but when
> > > it
> >
> > > gets triggered it displays its content followed by the normal
> > > layout. I tried putting a cfabort tag directly after the cferror,
> > > but it didn't have any effect. I'm aware of the modified core files
> > > available, but this is going live today. (yeah, yeah, I know, last
> > > minute changes are bad). Is there any way to do this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kay.
>
>
>
>

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