Bahar wrote (see below line):

Mass production is a useful way to get a lot of goods at
lowest cost.If the conditions of work are pretty bad, just
get a different job.

Harry Pollard
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> 
> Thoughts on the character of Mass Production;
> 
> This discussion of course is one about the character of technological systems 
>themselves. Are they neutral, value free or socially constructed. I think enough 
>evidence now points to technologies as social control mechanism as well. Among many 
>possible technical paths to the solution of production questions some are preferred 
>over others due essentially to the power game.
> Mass production is a particularly poignant example of this due to its embodiment of  
>Taylorist management and deskilling. To expect a participatory outcome from mass 
>production would be impossible due to its development as an elite control technology.
> 
> A good example of the impossiblity to democratically control mass production was the 
>beginnings factory soviets in the opening phases of the bolshevik revolution. Mass 
>production technologies transferred  or rather copied from the west allowed only 
>hierarchical control giving rise to the consolidation of the management elite.
> 
> That participative and democratic control of technology is necessary, there is no 
>doubt. But the design of production technologies is where the real social control has 
>to come in, all the way to the initail research&development phase. How present 
>capitalist technologies can be reconfigured  for a fairer workplace and production 
>process is the baffling question!!?
> 
> Baha Kuban
> 
> >>> "Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/16/98 10:31 >>>
> I've forgotten who I responded to here,
> sory if it is a repeat.
> 
> Eva
> 
> I think I did have a similar question before -
> I don't think that the "home-industry"
> style production can satisfy the needs of the present number
> of people. Also, if we can find the sustainable means
> of cutting down on the soul-numbing jobs, why shouldn't
> we? Lets keep the capitalism created wonders
> of science and technology, through democratic
> control, let's make sure it is done sustainably
> and with minimal environmental degregation.
> I picture the next era witha minimum of
> rotated unwanted task, and full individual
> creative development.
> 
> Eva
> 
> >
> > Eva, why would we want to keep mass production; which is a
> > particular manifestation of capitalist production relations
> > pertaining to a particular accumulation regime of a particular era
> > in the techno-eco omic history of capitalism, for a sustainable
> > world may I ask. I am sorry if I am out of context here because I
> > didn't listen well...
> >
> > baha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> "Durant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/12/98 12:51 >>>
> > Mass production and globalisation is necessary
> > if we want to sustain sustainably the earth's
> > population. That is why we cannot go back
> > to some quaint early form of capitalism.
> >
> > Eva
> >
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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