Thanks Harry,
Let's consider a couple of other things.
1. it is not mankind's desire that is unlimited but mankind's capacity for
desire that probably is so.
2. once mankind does desire it, completion of that desire is based upon
several different intentionalities that are time/space and
culture/consciousness bound. e.g. the buying of gas at your neighbor's
station, rather than Sears, in order to save the community the loss of his
family and to trade something else of value that he would do for you.
Economics makes some of these very points but its problem is with its being
basically blind to wholeness in the lives of humans and human culture.
The biggest scam in capitalism is that there are no consequences to
your not supporting community. I pay tremendous expenses as a result of
living in a society that basically does not support small communities.
Living here is necessary for my job but the expenses makes saving
impossible. Not so my parents who together made $7,000 a year as teachers
but who saved and had a medical and retirement plan. They couldn't own
land on the reservation but the community made up for the differences in
costs and they did much better in their retirement then either of their
children existing in this Wal-mart world.
You described purchasing, with your son, as entertainment and sport but that
has little to do with the long term life that so many of us are forced to
live unless we are willing to commit to working in high paying widget drudge
work. You may as well do Amway. The products are good and you have a
community beyond Wal-mart. There are a lot of well known movie stars and
others who have found Amway with its private Ponzi scheme to be far superior
to Wal-mart and its cultural poverty. Those of us in the Arts know the
business of residuals very well also and so Amway is not that much different
from the investment of your time and energy in a movie that pays residuals.
Do I think its a good system? It all depends upon whether you like the
life of Willy Loman.
Ray Evans Harrell from New York City
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>
> Well said, Ray!
>
> Harry
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> Ray wrote:
>
> >One of the problems is that it is not realized, or admitted, that
> >communication and travel are the food of industry and should be as cheap
as
> >possible in order for the country to function as a society.
> >
> >The second issue is that, in order for there to be a healthy environment
for
> >the greatest amount of work to be done, there must be sufficent attention
> >given to play. The human spirit needs play in order for invention to
be
> >operant at the highest levels. When the only play that is available is
> >sexual or other forms of physical exstasy the problem comes, like with
the
> >rise of AIDS in the gay community years ago, in the limits of the human
> >body. We should find as many different and complicated forms of play
as
> >there is work. You need transcendance, closeness, work and play.
That
> >is what my people believe and I do as well.
> >
> >Ray Evans Harrell
> >
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> >From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "jan matthieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mantle, Rosalyn"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> >"Bradskey, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cole, Karen Watters"
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> >Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dunn, Darcy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H,
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> >Subject: Re: Whining (Pay the real cost for it! )
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> >
> > > jan matthieu wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > On the other hand, and from my green angle, I think it's high time
there
> > > > comes a world wide tax on kerosine for planes.
> > >
> > > My feeling is that maybe air travel taxes should pay for
> > > the cost of all the security measures to keep the
> > > planes flying, and also pay a living wage to the
> > > folks who do it.
> > >
> > > Teleconferencing eliminates the NEED for face-to-face
> > > meetings between multinational corporation
> > > executives.
> > >
> > > Vacation travel is a luxury. Let people pay its
> > > real cost in comparison with other forms of
> > > leisure (OK: "free time") activities, such as
> > > having a glass of good spirits with good friends
> > > in a place with a good view (or a good library,
> > > or both or more...).
> > >
> > > I would be surprised if the percentage of
> > > air travel that is actually necessary was
> > > higher than it would be cheaper (and, surely: safer!)
> > > to provide for their travel by chartered planes -- which
> > > would have the interesting "side effect" of
> > > making the conditions of travel far better for those
> > > who have to fly. Occasional passengers can also
> > > be accomodated on cargo planes (andf government
> > > personnel could sometimes use military planes that
> > > were already going where they are going).
> > >
> > > Of course, as with other addictions, we probably
> > > would not want to go "cold turkey", but rather
> > > do an intelligently socially managed gradual transition from
> > > people flying around, to people flying only for
> > > exigent reasons.
> > >
> > > Man, unlike the donkey, walks in a straight line
> > > because he has a goal.
> > > (--Le Corbusier)
> > >
> > > Three things are not possible:
> > > The desire of the rich always to have more,
> > > The desire of the sick for something different, and
> > > The desire of the traveller to be any place but here.
> > > (--Arthur Appel)
> > >
> > > \brad mccormick
> > >
> > > --
> > > Let your light so shine before men,
> > > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
> > >
> > > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
> > >
> > > <![%THINK;[SGML+APL]]> Brad McCormick, Ed.D. / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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