Hi Lawry, Maybe I was being a touch too cynical. But I can't think just at the moment of ideals and a person of ideals that I'd want to go along with enthusiastically. Let me leave finding a candidate to you.
Keith I'll leave itAt 09:24 02/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Good morning, Keith, > >These seems like such a sad conclusion. Can you really not think of any >recent idealistic person who achieved positive results, which might serve as >a counterexample to your most pessimistic view? > >Cheers (literally!) >Lawry > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Hudson >> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:39 AM >> To: Ray Evans Harrell >> Cc: Selma Singer; Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; "Harry Pollard" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc : >> Subject: Re: Whining ("Stop it! And say: 'Thank you'! .... ) >> >> >> Ray, >> >> (REH) >> <<<< >> A good idea is one thing but it may never be practical and that is what I >> believe both you and Keith are dealing with in your pursuit of your ideal. >> >>>> >> >> My "ideal"? >> >> I can't speak for Harry, but I don't have much time these days for ideals. >> I used to when I was young, but then I've realised over a lifetime that >> "good" people with ideals get one (and often whole populations) >> into a deal >> of trouble. >> >> The last idealist movement of note was, I suppose the Khymer Rouge led by >> its quietly spoken agrarian reformer by the name of Pol Pot. >> >> It's been only 27 years since he was able to start to put his reforms into >> practice in Cambodia. >> >> Result? One of the larger genocides of history -- somewhere >> between 1.5 and >> 2 million skulls were stacked up floor to ceiling in Buddhist monasteries, >> classrooms and the like. >> >> (REH) >> <<<< >> Where is there a sustainable economy in the capitalist free market mode >> that has lasted 100 years? 200? 500? 1000? 2000? or as long as the >> Egyptians 4000? >> >>>> >> >> Ochres, flints and probably special woods have been traded along routes of >> hundreds of miles' length in Europe and Asia from at least 35,000BC and >> very possibly before that. The free market mode has been >> operating whenever >> governments did not interfere with it. I suppose the Sumerian authorities >> were the first who started to tax and control trade (the Iraq-Afghanistan >> trade route -- grain, wood, lapis lazuli, silver) -- so that means the >> first episode of free trade lasted for something like 30,000 years. >> >> Keith Hudson >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ---------- >> ------------ >> >> Keith Hudson, General Editor, Handlo Music, http://www.handlo.com >> 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England >> Tel: +44 1225 312622; Fax: +44 1225 447727; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Keith Hudson, General Editor, Handlo Music, http://www.handlo.com 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England Tel: +44 1225 312622; Fax: +44 1225 447727; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________
