I think you both protest too
much. Societies are complicated and Democratic societies more
resemble sailing that anything done on the land. You must be
willing to negotiate the wind and water. Complaining that it
isn't the land or trying to build your own little island around your rules seems
doomed. There are many boats but it seems to me that the only
land metaphors in politics and economics are either dead societies
or Totalitarian ones.
The issue is whether you feel an obligation to
those who fall out of the boat or not. Some people
like the Japanese feel that it is against the rule of personal responsibility to
help someone whose actions have carried them into the tenuous positions of
falling out while others like the Christians feel that every soul is important
to the boat even if it sinks from overcrowding. A lot seems to
be determined by whether you consider this a sump to be used by baby
souls rather than a home to be loved, cherished and lived gracefully
within. Think of all of those beautiful Japanese houses compared to
the dirt and dust of book laden America. Those are just the
basics.
Moving the boat and dealing with how to know the
waves, currents and winds are whether a society actually "works" or not as
a system is the next step up the evolutionary ladder in the development of
societies. (Actually the "ladder" is probably a poor metaphor as
progress seems more a series of holistic circles in the form of a rising
spiral. The "Air and Water" metaphor probably means that one is
essentially limited as to heights and depths by the qualities of the two
mediums. One can go only so high and so deep before being
lifted back in an entropic process to the surface where air and water
meet.)
This society is not a reflective one but an active
one that deals with changing the power every four years or so.
Term limits are a "landification" of those rules and given the complexity of
running such a system seems Schizoid to me. Maybe the
longing for land that is so much a part of all of the capitalist and socialist
systems is really just a longing to return to the Mother's breast where
everything seemed stable and controlled with the child's needs being met simply
by sitting down and raging a storm into existance.
Ray Evans Harrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Leier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Harry Pollard'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Ray
Evans Harrell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad
McCormick, Ed.D.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:16
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Subject: [Futurework] RE: Corporations (was "One
word: 'coal'" "Yessir.")
>
> Thanks again. So, who do we blame? The briber? The bribee? Why not
> both? You prove my point.
>
> Bruce Leier
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:40 PM
> > To: Bruce Leier; 'Ray Evans Harrell'; 'Brad McCormick, Ed.D.';
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Corporations (was "One word: 'coal'" "Yessir.")
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> >
> > >Ray,
> > >
> > >Well said. Maybe Harry is right to criticize me for blaming it on
> > >corporations. But then maybe not! Don't all the greed-heads and
> > >destroyers use corporate cover?
> > >
> > >Bruce Leier
> >
> > Corporations get criminal, but legal, power from the government.
> >
> > The people in government are corrupted by money (also jobs and
> suchlike).
> >
> > Do you believe that these paid sycophants of corporations will do
> anything
> > to limit the power of those corporations - particularly as they have
> > enhanced that power?
> >
> > Finally, do you think it matters whether "government" is Republican or
> > Democrat?
> >
> > Harry
> >
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> > ******************************
> > Harry Pollard
> > Henry George School of LA
> > Box 655
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