Thanks for the reply, Brad. That was my criticism. Do I understand correctly
that you consider yourself at war with the Palestinians?  The US is at war
with neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians, though the US does provide
the Israelis with many weapons with which to attack the Palestinians.

And if our government does declare this or that people or country to be an
'enemy' -- something it seems oddly prone to do -- do you then decide that
it is unlikely that you would like any of them, individually?  Can you not
imagine liking _any_ Iraqi, Afghani, North Korean, Vietnamese, Serb, et al?

Cheers,
Lawry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad
> McCormick, Ed.D.
> Sent: Fri, August 29, 2003 4:44 PM
> To: Ed Weick
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] The shining city on a hill.... and the
> evolution of nuclear submarines, etc.
>
>
> Ed Weick wrote:
>
> >>Ysterday, in a History Channel program about icebreakers
> >>(the ships that can "cut thru the stuff"...), they said that
> >>Israel some years ago purchased a no longer state of the art,
> >>but nonetheless heavy-duty *ice breaker* from the U.S. Navy.
> >>What in heaven or purgatory or hell does Israel need
> >>with an *ice breaker*?  But I suspect they *do* have
> >>some very "good" use for its 2-inch thick steel hull with
> >>all those closely spaced reinforcing beams all down the
> >>hull and super-powerful engines....
> >
> >
> >>\brad mccormick
> >
> >
> > Probably precautionary.  Nobody is quite sure of whether we are in for
> > global warming or global cooling.
>
> Two points:
>
> (1) Someone criticized me for saying in my posting that
> "I doubt I'd like most "Palestineans"".  That was a "sop for Cerebrus",
> to indicate that I am not an enemy sympathizer in wartime.  It's
> probably true, but I am, as you all have probably figured out
> long since, "an equal opportunity offender".
>
> (2) Shifting from ice breakers to nuclear subs: I read that
> the U.S. navy is buying less expensive and smaller US$2.5 billion
> new subs to address the new threat of rogue states and
> terrorist organizations.  I had this vision of one of these
> new submarines growning rudimentary arms and legs and
> crawling up out of the water and crawling into the caves of
> Tora Bora to try to apprehend Osama bin Laden....
>
> As Hannah Arendt might say: It's "animal laborans" holiday
> weekend here in the U.S.A. (see _The Human Condition_, passim)....
>
> Cheers!
>
> \brad mccormick
>
> >
> > Ed Weick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:23 PM
> > Subject: [Futurework] The shining city on a hill....
> >
> >
> >
> >>Ysterday, in a History Channel program about icebreakers
> >>(the ships that can "cut thru the stuff"...), they said that
> >>Israel some years ago purchased a no longer state of the art,
> >>but nonetheless heavy-duty *ice breaker* from the U.S. Navy.
> >>What in heaven or purgatory or hell does Israel need
> >>with an *ice breaker*?  But I suspect they *do* have
> >>some very "good" use for its 2-inch thick steel hull with
> >>all those closely spaced reinforcing beams all down the
> >>hull and super-powerful engines....
> >>
> >>Today's news is that the Israelis succeeded in blowing
> >>up a Hamas leader who was travelling in a residential
> >>neighborhood in a donkey cart.
> >>
> >>Doesn't anybody think there is something "asymmetrical"
> >>about using F-16s to launch missiles to blow up Hamas
> >>leaders being driven in their Mercedes-Benzes?
> >>
> >>I doubt I'd like most "Palestineans" (although I did once
> >>meet a self-avowed Muslim Syrian employee of the U.N. who
> >>genuinely surprised me as being an apparently
> >>humanistic individual...).  But if the Israelis
> >>were "anybody else", would we all see them
> >>as such exemplary paragon
> >>citizens of the shining city on a hill?
> >>
> >>I can only conclude that I misread the story of
> >>King Solomon's judgment about the two women and the
> >>baby.  But then I only claim to know secular hermeneutics....
> >>
> >>\brad mccormick
> >>
> >>--
> >>   Let your light so shine before men,
> >>               that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
> >>
> >>   Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
> >>
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