michel dominique wote: > On lun. 16/09/13 22:41 , Thomas Funk <t.f...@web.de> wrote: > >> michel dominique wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I begun to made some work on a xdg menu for fvwm-menu-desktop >>> that will provide FreeDesktop additional categories support out of >>> the box. >>> >>> It will provide /etc/xdg/menus/fvwm-applications.menu and its >>> associated files. This is a work in progress, for just it just >>> give an idea of what I want to do. A few additional categories >>> are already supported, and it will take some time until all are >>> incorporated. >>> >>> It is a repository on github: >>> https://github.com/domichel/fvwm-xdg-menu [1] [1] >> The xfce menu is the wrong one you've started with. It is too >> specific. You have to use an applications.menu. It is more unique. > > I started from xfce applications menu. It is an xdg application menu, > and as such, it is able to show any applications that have desktop > files in /usr/share/applications.
Right, but if you haven't installed Xfce no .directory files exist like <Directory>xfce-education.directory</Directory> >> The other problem with your menu is that you have .desktop entries. >> A unique menu should work without them. > > These .desktop files in /usr/share/desktop-directories are hare only > for automatic translations of the category's names and comments. > The menu work fine without them, exactly like yours, but will be in > English only. Most distributions have the main categories as .directory files in /usr/share/desktop-directories so it is meaningless to create fvwm-<whatever> directory entries. Use the xdg defaults. Then you have translation per default. >> Attached is my first test menu based on Ubuntus applications.menu >> with some parts from openSuse. I have to test it on other >> distributions but on Debian it works fine. Should work on Fedora, >> too because their applications.menu is similar. > > Thank you, it is interesting. Your welcome :-) A bare application menu is attached. This was the base of my test menu. It includes only the main categories. Perhaps this could be the best start. Fedora have the same but with some Fedora specific entries. > Applications place their desktop files into > /usr/share/applications. If these desktop files are compliant, all > will be fine on any distribution. If they are not, this only mean > these desktop files are buggy because they are not non-compliant. > In gentoo, portage issue warnings about these buggy desktop files. > >> But Mageia/Mandriva for example has own directory named files >> besides of the xdg specification, so there is much work to support >> such distributions. > > For me, this is their problem. The xdg specification exist for one > good reason, to standardize menus. If some xyz distribution make non > standard extensions to that norm, it is not my problem if they like > to make extra work. I will not do it for them, but will accept > patches. Hmmm ... I don't think, that users accept a menu which has no entries in it because the distribution they use doesn't use the xdg standard. I will test it if these extra directory entries needed or not. > Also, extra categories can be made with a X- prefix. Maybe this is > for that they write: > "Category-based menu implementations SHOULD therefore provide a > "catch-all" submenu for applications that cannot be appropriately > placed elsewhere." > > In my menu, it is the following at the end: > <Menu> > <Name>Other</Name> > <Directory>xfce-other.directory</Directory> > <OnlyUnallocated/> > <Include> > <All/> > </Include> > </Menu> > Ah, ok. That's a good entry. I am not at this point. I've built the test menu today. So ... ;-) > I didn't looked at it for now, so this is still the xfce-* Directory > key. But it work in English with any locale. > > That imply for Fedora and the like, it can be enough to add some > *Dir* statements at the beginning, and their apps will be matched > into the relevant categories, and in Other otherwise. If they don't > like it, they can send patches. > >> >>> It is no icon support for the categories at that time, maybe later >>> if I find the time. But maybe they are already in fvwm-themes? >> fvwm-menu-desktop supports icons by default. > > I talk about categories icons here, not apps icons. > Do you mean the Icon keys in the /usr/share/desktop-directories > desktop files, because it is in these files the categories icons are > specified, or icons in fvwm ImagePath? No, fvwm-menu-desktop (from CVS) uses for top menu names the 'gnome-fs-directory' icon and for unknown application 'gnome-applications'. Also it gets the icons in the directory files if available. if not it uses the folder icon. The choice of gnome icons is not the best but if you know some others which are available on each system, tell it to me. Best, Thomas
