On mar. 17/09/13 01:41 , Thomas Funk <t.f...@web.de> wrote: > michel dominique wote: > > On lun. 16/09/13 22:41 , Thomas Funk wrote: > > > >> michel dominique wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I begun to made some work on a xdg menu for fvwm-menu-desktop > >>> that will provide FreeDesktop additional categories support out of > >>> the box. > >>> > >>> It will provide /etc/xdg/menus/fvwm-applications.menu and its > >>> associated files. This is a work in progress, for just it just > >>> give an idea of what I want to do. A few additional categories > >>> are already supported, and it will take some time until all are > >>> incorporated. > >>> > >>> It is a repository on github: > >>> https://github.com/domichel/fvwm-xdg-menu [1] [1] [1] > >> The xfce menu is the wrong one you've started with. It is too > >> specific. You have to use an applications.menu. It is more unique. > > > > I started from xfce applications menu. It is an xdg application menu, > > and as such, it is able to show any applications that have desktop > > files in /usr/share/applications. > > Right, but if you haven't installed Xfce no .directory files exist like > xfce-education.directory
It is why I change them to fvwm-*.directory. But I am doing one at a time and test it. XML is so easily confused by typos. > >> The other problem with your menu is that you have .desktop entries. > >> A unique menu should work without them. > > > > These .desktop files in /usr/share/desktop-directories are hare only > > for automatic translations of the category's names and comments. > > The menu work fine without them, exactly like yours, but will be in > > English only. > > Most distributions have the main categories as .directory files in > /usr/share/desktop-directories so it is meaningless to create > fvwm- directory entries. Use the xdg defaults. Then you have > translation per default. I am on Debian for now, and the only one I have are the xfce* files. I choose xfce at the beginning of the installation. So, I think the best think to do in order to be sure it will work in any cases, is to provide them. > > >> Attached is my first test menu based on Ubuntus applications.menu > >> with some parts from openSuse. I have to test it on other > >> distributions but on Debian it works fine. Should work on Fedora, > >> too because their applications.menu is similar. > > > > Thank you, it is interesting. > > Your welcome :-) > > A bare application menu is attached. This was the base of my test > menu. It includes only the main categories. Perhaps this could > be the best start. Fedora have the same but with some Fedora > specific entries. It is late. I will take a look another day. > > > Applications place their desktop files into > > /usr/share/applications. If these desktop files are compliant, all > > will be fine on any distribution. If they are not, this only mean > > these desktop files are buggy because they are not non-compliant. > > In gentoo, portage issue warnings about these buggy desktop files. > > > >> But Mageia/Mandriva for example has own directory named files > >> besides of the xdg specification, so there is much work to support > >> such distributions. > > > > For me, this is their problem. The xdg specification exist for one > > good reason, to standardize menus. If some xyz distribution make non > > standard extensions to that norm, it is not my problem if they like > > to make extra work. I will not do it for them, but will accept > > patches. > > Hmmm ... I don't think, that users accept a menu which has no entries > in it because the distribution they use doesn't use the xdg standard. > I will test it if these extra directory entries needed or not. At that point... > >>> It is no icon support for the categories at that time, maybe later > >>> if I find the time. But maybe they are already in fvwm-themes? > >> fvwm-menu-desktop supports icons by default. > > > > I talk about categories icons here, not apps icons. > > Do you mean the Icon keys in the /usr/share/desktop-directories > > desktop files, because it is in these files the categories icons are > > specified, or icons in fvwm ImagePath? > > No, fvwm-menu-desktop (from CVS) uses for top menu names the > 'gnome-fs-directory' icon and for unknown application > 'gnome-applications'. Also it gets the icons in the directory files if > available. if not it uses the folder icon. The choice of gnome icons > is not the best but if you know some others which are available on > each system, tell it to me. The Tango theme is very popular. Also, in wm-icons, it is some icons that can be used for the extra categories, but they will not mix very well with the gnome or tango themes. I don't think any single theme will provide icons for all the possible additional categories. But I didn't looked at it for now. I think the best would be to provide these icons. Also, it is the Ken's Lester icon themes which are very nice and very popular on the Amiga OS, but GNU/Linux have a very poor support of dual-png pictures. It is possible to extract the individual pictures. Ken gave me the permission to use them under the GPL. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-850702.html http://www.five-star.com/icons.htm Thanks to fvwm-button, It is a few of them into fvwm-crystal: http://fvwm-crystal.sourceforge.net/screenshots/desktop-manager.png They also mix well with the Tango theme. I added some of them, but with only one picture, in the menus. Cheers, Domique
