TJ,
1) I set Zend_Locale in the registry.
Useless when you are not using SVN trunk. Will be supported with 1.7 but not
for 1.6.
So you've not set a locale at all....
2) I let Zend_Translate autohandle the language and auto add it's source.
nl and en will be added... but no nl_NL.
3) There's one tmx file added to Zend_Translate, located in the tmx source
file are the 'nl' and 'en' language.
4) The browser supports nl_NL, which is not defined in the tmx source.
5) Zend_Translate downgrades to 'nl', which is the closest match.
Here is your problem...
Downgrading is supported for translation but not for setting the default
language.
Only when you do translate('my string'); it will be downgraded but not when
setting a language.
You did not give a language...
Zend_Translate adds all given sources and tries then to set the language as
requested by the user...
But:
Your user requested a not existing language...
So you get a notice / exception about this failure.
6) Zend_Translate finds/fetches the 'nl' sources in the tmx file and
translates the (given) string.
It would do this... but you will not come there as there is nl_NL is not
supported by your source.
You will have to handle users which request not existing languages, that's
all.
Greetings
Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
http://www.thomasweidner.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taco Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <fw-general@lists.zend.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate TMX doesn't downgrade?
Thomas,
How I would expect it to work:
1) I set Zend_Locale in the registry.
2) I let Zend_Translate autohandle the language and auto add it's source.
3) There's one tmx file added to Zend_Translate, located in the tmx source
file are the 'nl' and 'en' language.
4) The browser supports nl_NL, which is not defined in the tmx source.
5) Zend_Translate downgrades to 'nl', which is the closest match.
6) Zend_Translate finds/fetches the 'nl' sources in the tmx file and
translates the (given) string.
It's probably me who's not up to par on this subject (haven't checked the
source code of Zend_Translate and Zend_Translate_Adapter_Tmx yet), so bear
with me to get a grasp of how it actually works.
Regards, TJ.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Thomas Weidner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
Prior to be able to set a wished language you must add it's source.
Example:
You add "nl" and "en"...
So you can not set "fr".
Also you have not set "nl_NL" so you can't set it as language to use for
default translations.
Greetings
Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
http://www.thomasweidner.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Taco Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <fw-general@lists.zend.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate TMX doesn't downgrade?
Hi Thomas,
Could you elaborate a bit more on your remark about "You can not set a
language where you have not defined a single string." . It's unclear to
me
what you mean by that? Perhaps an example helps?
Regards, TJ.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Thomas Weidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>wrote:
There is one mistake in your thoughts.
Zend_Translate will automatically translate and downgrade when a
translation is not available.
BUT:
You can not set a language where you have not defined a single string.
And regarding to you sourcefile you just defined "en" and "nl"... but
no
other language.
So you can only set those two languages for translation as no other was
defined.
Greetings
Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
http://www.thomasweidner.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Taco Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <fw-general@lists.zend.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate TMX doesn't downgrade?
Thomas,
The nl (not nl_NL) translations are in the source file:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<tmx version="2.0" xmlns="http://www.lisa.org/tmx20";>
<header adminlang="en" creationtool="locale4j"
creationtoolversion="1.1"
o-tmf="unknown" segtype="block" srclang="*all*"/>
<body>
<tu tuid="Add">
<tuv xml:lang="nl">
<seg>Toevoegen</seg>
</tuv>
<tuv xml:lang="en">
<seg>Add</seg>
</tuv>
</tu>
I'm trying to autohandle the languages, so I'm especially interested
in
your
remark about "The locale parameter is ignored for sourcefiles which
define
there locale themself".
What does that actually mean? That I can't autohandle the language?
From
the
manual I read:
" TMX files can have several languages within the same file. All other
included languages are added automatically, so you do not have to call
addLanguage()."
Shouldn't nl_NL downgrade to nl and therefore the language is
autohandled
and fetched when translating?
Regards, TJ.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Thomas Weidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>wrote:
Simply said, you wanted to change the language to a language where no
translation is available at all.
It seems that you have only empty 'nl_NL' files and wanted to
setLocale('nl_NL');
This has nothing to do with downgrading. Downgrading does work and is
always done when translating.
But you can not set a language where you have not added translations
before
as then there would nothing be there to downgrade to.
And beware: The TMX format defines the language within the source
file.
The
locale parameter is ignored for sourcefiles which define there locale
themself.
Greetings
Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
http://www.thomasweidner.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Codiac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <fw-general@lists.zend.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Translate TMX doesn't downgrade?
Hi all,
I've switched from a CSV file to using TMX for my translations, but
it
seems
there's a problem with the TMX adapter. According to the manual, if
a
language can't be found it downgrades the language code (without the
region). However I get the following message, even with language
'nl'
in
my
TMX file:
Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Translate_Exception' with
message
'No
translation for the language 'nl_NL' available.'
This is in my bootstrap:
$locale = new Zend_Locale();
self::$registry->Zend_Locale = $locale;
$translate = new Zend_Translate('tmx', self::$basepath .
'/languages');
self::$registry->Zend_Translate = $translate;
However, if I adjust the following line:
$translate = new Zend_Translate('tmx', self::$basepath .
'/languages',
'nl');
Everything works fine. Can someone verify if this is a bug?
Regards, TJ.
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