Sorry, I just have to. Someone can delete stuff sent in a mailing list? That's hilarious! Better ask the Zend people to delete this thread too. This is just embarassing. At least you weren't using your name though, good call on that one.
-- Mon On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Matthew Ratzloff <m...@builtfromsource.com > wrote: > Guys, please let this subject die by not replying to the thread. > -Matt > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:59 AM, aoohralex <aoohra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> My critical subject about Zend Framework was deleted. Somebody from Zend >> deleted my post. My criticism PHP authors and Zend Framework in compare to >> other frameworks wasn't comfortable for Zend company. You can don't agree >> with me but delete my subject ? So again: >> >> I have started learn ZF because I wanted to learn something new. >> If we have range 0 – 10. My knowledge ZF is 1 – I can make basic things in >> ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend forms, >> authorization, use jquery and layout in zend, controllers, views. >> My knowledge Symfony Framework is 5. My knowledge ASP.NET MVC (not >> ASP.NET) >> is 4. >> >> Now I can say that ZF is very bad framework or maybe rather it isn't a >> framework. Everybody knows that authors of PHP are always late and behind >> – >> for example PHP is really OO from version v5 (eariel it was only some OO >> elements in PHP). The same is in Zend Framework – this framework is behind >> others frameworks. >> >> First - Zend_Db is nothing compared to Doctrine ORM. Using Zend_Db I have >> to >> create myself models: >> >> http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-a-model-and-database-table >> !!!!! In Symfony Framework with Doctrine ORM and in ASP.NET MVC with Linq >> to >> SQL I don't need because it is wasting of time – there it is automatic – >> in >> Symfony using console and in ASP.NET MVC using Visual Studio. Of course >> Doctrine and Linq to SQL have got more better things. >> >> In Zend Framework almost nothing you can do using console (of course >> almost >> nothing compared to Symfony) – in Symfony using console you can generate >> much more (I don't use in Symfony console to generate modules, controllers >> or forms but for begginners it is very comfortable). In ASP.NET MVC I >> don't >> need use console but Visual Studio but ASP.NET MVC is very young so >> generated controllers/views etc. don't have so good code as in Symfony. In >> ASP>NET MVC and Symfony Framework I don't need to enable layout like in >> Zend >> Framework. The most horrible thing in Zend it was for me Zend_Acl – using >> that I can't still make that only logged users can have access to action >> 'add' controller 'books' – in Symfony I can make that using 2 lines of >> code >> in module 'books': >> >> add: >> is_secure: on >> >> and in ASP.NET one line of code in controller: >> >> [Authorize] >> >> What is more in Symfony and ASP.NET MVC we have tables in database and >> everything else related with users, authorization etc. created in these >> frameworks – in Zend I must myself do that. >> There is of course more good things in these frameworks – better than in >> Zend. >> >> Documentation – hahah – in Zend documentation is chaotic, is HORRIBLE !! >> Have you ever seen documentation of Symfony or ASP.NET MVC ? I have never >> seen worse documentation than in Zend. >> >> For me Zend isn't a framework but rather components that we can use in >> other >> frameworks – for example Zend Lucene in Symfony: >> http://www.symfony-project.org/jobeet/1_2/Doctrine/en/17 >> >> As I thought – authors of PHP are always late and they are always behind >> so >> Zend is always late and behind. For now Symfony and ASP.NET MVC are from >> XXI >> aga, Zend is from XX age. >> >> This was my compare these frameworks. Sry for my English – it isn't my >> national language. >> >> PS. bold text = I am angry because of delete my subject by Zend company. >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Is-there-anybody-from-Zend-team---tp25455352p25531048.html >> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >
