2009/10/30 Matthew Weier O'Phinney <matt...@zend.com>: > -- keith Pope <mute.p...@googlemail.com> wrote > (on Friday, 30 October 2009, 04:43 PM +0000): >> 2009/10/30 Matthew Weier O'Phinney <matt...@zend.com>: >> > -- keith Pope <mute.p...@googlemail.com> wrote >> > (on Friday, 30 October 2009, 04:02 PM +0000): >> > > 2009/10/30 Ralph Schindler <ralph.schind...@zend.com> : >> > > Also will we be deprecating Zend_Db as if we have tight Doctrine >> > > integration is there any reason to keep Zend_Db? >> > >> > There are plenty of reasons to keep Zend_Db. Not everyone will be using >> > Doctrine, and for many one-off types of applications (single tables, or >> > multiple tables with no relations, etc.), having Zend_Db around will >> > continue to be essential. Additionally, one aspect I'd like to explore >> > with the Doctrine folks is potentially allowing Zend_Db adapters as >> > Doctrine RDBMS adapters; this would provide some very interesting >> > integration points. >> >> Sounds interesting I look forward to seeing this initiative develop >> further, I would be happy to help in any way I can :) >> >> Once we have the integration especially with doctrine 2 would there be >> any further plans to look at things like dependency injection, >> criteria objects and repositories or any other DDD tools? To me having >> a full suite of tools like this would be a great long term goal? > > DI is something we're already planning for -- you'll note the "unified > constructor" pattern in all new components. Whether or not we'll have a > DI _container_ is another question; I'm not entirely convinced DI > containers have a good place in stateless applications, but I'll let > Ralph talk more to that point. :)
That is an interesting point, I dont quite understand how state affects object dependencies or is the container an unnecessary overhead when you are working in a limited state environment? Something I may have to ponder.... > > As for criteria objects, we've just approved another of Ben's > components, some extensions to Zend_Db_Expr. One aspect I particularly > like with it is that, combined with Zend_Db_Select, we are getting to a > point where we have an almost complete criteria object for select > operations. This could certainly be adapted for use with DDD fairly > easily. Regarding repositories, Zend_Application_Bootstrap actually > already acts as one in many ways -- though we may do more with this > and/or service locators for 2.0. > > -- > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > Project Lead | matt...@zend.com > Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/ > -- ------------ http://www.thepopeisdead.com
