I know some people in the list get annoyed reading talk about OS 9.  But I must 
agree that Steve Jobs must have been out of his mind or really looking for many 
profitting OSX sales when he declared OS 9 dead.  To me and for many users 
that's not the case (not to mention some hated him for doing that including 
myself), even though I use X at least 87% of the time (because I want to remain 
as compatible as possible with the internet, and also its a waste of time to 
reboot constantly from one system to the other).  as I said before, in our 
local school district, only staff uses OSX, and I can understand why. certain 
things were just easier for me in OS9 and sometimes I still would rather boot 
into 9 rather than doing them the long way in OS X.

For example, the put away command.  The other day I was checking my pictures 
folder one by one and I put a few pictures in the trash, then I changed my mind 
BOY wtf!!...  What were the folks in Apple thinking when they forgot such a 
special feature in OSX?  And another, I hate it when I select a bunch of files 
and choose get info.  I honestly don't know who was the idiot who decided to 
make this (as MS Windows), the get info windows says "86 files" DUH, I can see 
that, "that occupy whatever size of megabytes" duh I already know that if I 
view the Get Info window on the folder before I even open it.  whether this is 
supposed to help you or not, its stupid, and unproductive.  if there was an 
option to "open individual item info in get info windows" was that too much to 
ask in the finder preferences tab, I dont think so.

I am using 10.2.8 and honestly, unless Panther or Tiger covers those things I 
mentioned I am not spending a buck on it.  I might run it later if I should buy 
a Mac with it already installed in the future.  The expense is not worth it.

The fact that some users said on the list that OSX doesn't crash, I don't know 
what system you're running but crashes come as often as who knows what, this 
machine can't handle AOL Netscape, IE, and FireFox opened at the same time, not 
sure why.  And if I should open Limewire, Quictime, Mail or some other small 
apps [like Preview], boy I am in real trouble.  I had to do another clean 
install once in about two weeks, and I guess its time to do another one, 
repairing permissions wont do a thing, and I don't think OS9 is to blame, 
because it sits on a completely separate drive.  I once heard someone that the 
reason my OSX was crashing so much on my G3 333 was because I had OS9 installed 
(on a separate drive as well) that's nonsense.  When I got my G3 400 I ran it 
for a whole week whithout installing OS 9 at all.  It would crash with 
Netscape, Acrobat and AOL just as often.  I also heard talk about Limewire 
crashing the system as well.  Sure, keep blaming third party software vendors, 
or poor programing.  If Apple made those for their users there wouldn't be a 
reason to look for other sources.

one thing I absolutely love about X (and its mainly the reason why I didn't 
erase it completely and rebooted into OS9) its iTunes, me being a music driven 
person, iTunes got me hooked up.  And I must say that's the only reason.  
everything else to me took at least two months to get used to (been OSX user 
for 2 years) and its not thrilling either.  Getting my G3 400 to be the 
internet router for my G3 333 is a pain, and I can't get my G3 333 to be able 
to sign on to password sites at all (is there a way to fix it?)

And what's it all about when you install a new or demo program, when it tells 
you "whatever program its using a file that could threaten the security of your 
computer, do you want to run it, fix it or whatever" I always chose "fix it and 
use" and with Norton and OS 10.1 (the latest version I had then) it keep going 
back to the same question endlessly until I'd force quit the damn thing. It has 
happened with other programs cant remember how many times.  I just NEVER went 
back to installing Norton in OSX, if I must run it I do it from OS9, and find 
it fixes OSX problems and improves the situation 80% of the times (although 
I've never done it in the G3 400, just the old G3 333 which incidentally didn't 
crash as often).

whenever I see the color spinning beach ball cursor I panic, at least 50% of 
the time when I see it, its a crash.  I had to stop the harddrive from spinnig 
down when the computer goes to sleep, every too often the system would crash 
while trying to wake up and access the drive, if this topic is too hot for the 
list please reply off list. and if it gets you too mad just reply to the 
question on the header.

thanks
Lili

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