Thanks very much Wayne. All that will keep me busy for awhile, and with any luck maybe one of those fixes will work.
Looks like it's going to be a long night . . . Tom At 6:56 PM -0600 4/06/2005, Wayne Clodfelter wrote: >Tom, >I know how you feel. I encountered such problems with my G4ed beige. No >probs so far with my Sawtooth, however, and I'm looking for a piece of >wood on which to knock. > >Here's some things to consider. I hope I am not giving any info that is >dated to the point of being bad, but as a disclaimer, I have not needed >to try any of this in quite a while. > >You say your computer starts up in cmmand line mode. >try typing /sbin/fsck -y [return] >[[in this and all typed entries below, be sure and include the spaces >as shown]] > >If this does not work, try the following series of actions, one series >at a time. Hopefully before you reach the end of this list, something >will have worked. > >Temporarily remove 3rd party startup items from >/lib/startupitems and >/sys/lib/startupitems (while booted in OS 9) and then try restarting. > >Disconnect USB, firewire, and ethernet cables and try restarting. > >Remove PCI cards, extra RAM chips, and any processor upgrade if any and >then try restarting. > >Startup in single user mode (command-S) until white text appears. >At command line type: fsck -y [return] >type mount -uw / [return] >type chmod 1775 / [return] >type reboot [return] > >Reset cuda switch > >Startup in safe mode: >Shutdown >Press Power button >At tone press shift key and hold until gray apple appears >After safe boot, restart normally > >Boot into open firmware (command-OF) from shutdown. >type reset-nvram [return] >type reset-all [return] >type bye > >Good luck. > >On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Thomas Baker wrote: > >> I've been running X (10.3.8 now) trouble-free for months, but today I >> decided to change the cables on my video converter box (which I use to >> feed >> analog video into Final Cut), and I thought it would be safer to shut >> down >> the computer before switching FireWire or video cables on the box (I >> especially worry about switching FW cables hot). So I chose Shut Down >> and >> waited for the Mac to shut down. The monitor screen turned blank-blue >> as it >> usually does during shutdown, but then it just hung there, frozen. No >> shut-down. >> >> After waiting awhile, I decided to go ahead and shut the Mac down the >> rest >> of the way by just hitting the Off button on my APS power backup, which >> cuts off the power to the Mac. Dumb! Doing that apparently broke OS-X! >> (Unless it was already broken when the shutdown screen froze). >> >> Now when I try to start up the Mac, instead of going to the OS-X >> desktop, >> it goes to a login box with my name on it, but only for a couple of >> seconds. Then that box vanishes and I get a blue screen with a terminal >> command line in the upper left corner: a login prompt asking for name >> and >> password. So I give it those, and I get "Welcome to Darwin!" Who's >> Darwin? >> Charles Darwin the naturalist? Anyway there sits the prompter or >> whatever >> it is waiting for commands, and I don't know any commands to give. The >> only >> command I know is "exit," which starts the whole broken startup thing >> over >> again: the glimpse of a login box followed by the terminal command >> lines >> asking for name and password again. >> >> I looked into Pogue's OS-X book for help, and he says to boot into >> single >> user mode in such a situation and type in fsck -y to get a repair >> routine >> running. So I did that, and I get >> >> "Checking HFS Plus Volume >> Invalid number of allocation blocks (-1,0) >> **volume check failed" >> >> Hitting exit from there takes me right back to "Welcome to Darwin" >> again. A >> vicious circle! No way out! >> >> Pogue suggests that when everything else fails like this, reinstall >> OS-X. >> So I put my OS-X CD in the superdrive (Pioneer 107) and restart while >> holding down the C key, but it hangs at the gray screen with the apple >> on >> it. I have to force a restart. >> >> Fortunately this is a dual-boot G4 (733 DA), so I can drop back into OS >> 9.2.2 by re-starting and holding down the D key. That gives me the OS-9 >> desktop (and I am sending this cry for help to the G-list from it) and >> I >> can see all my drive icons, and open them up to see that everything on >> them >> is present and accounted for (three internal and IDE three external >> FireWire drives), and the OS-X System folder is sitting there on one >> of the >> drives as normal. >> >> While on the OS-9 desktop, if I choose the OS-X Install disk as the >> startup >> disk, and restart, all it does is hang again at the gray screenfd, and >> I >> have to force a restart. >> >> So, I'm stuck! I can't get my OS-X desktop back, and I can't reinstall >> OS-X >> either! 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