There's something I should've mentioned earlier: this computer is one of the ones which came equipped with a Zip drive, so the CD-ROM drive is on an ATA bus with that instead of the hard drive. Maybe this is it? Perhaps I could try switching the CD-ROM drive to the hard drive's ATA bus? First, I'd need to find out how to get the drive cage out of the way, so that I can get to the primary hard drive; any idea how to? -Adam
-- Adam Vaughn Collector of old computers, video game systems, radios and other electronic equipment... Visit my page at http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/index.html > Adam, > Okay - I re-read your original questions about this > regarding the Jaguar install. Aside from what was > mentioned by another writer about putting the HD in > another machine to install the OS, and noting that > your machine is reported as a Rev 3, it should be > capable of a Master/Slave drive setup. Try jumpering > the HD as a Slave drive and try again. If it gives > trouble afterward booting from the HD, change the > jumpers back to Master/Master or Slave-CD/Master-HD. > Jim > > --- Adam Vaughn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, I found it. The problem is, it didn't do a bit > > of good for me. Followed your steps (had the PRAM > > battery and power cord out for six hours), and > > nothing has changed (except the internal time > > setting). Even used a brand new PRAM battery. As > > usual, I'm quite frustrated over the whole matter. > > Any more ideas? > > -Adam > > > > -- > > Adam Vaughn > > Collector of old computers, video game systems, > > radios and other electronic > > equipment... > > Visit my page at > > http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > From: Jim Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Adam Vaughn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [G] Beige G3/300 won't boot OS X > > install disk > > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:43:41 +0000 > > > > Adam, > > What it is: The CUDA switch, to my understanding, > > interrupts the power going to the firmware and > > thereby clears it. Sometimes it takes more than > > once though. And sometimes it takes a battery pull. > > When pulling the battery, BTW, Unplugging the power > > cord from the case keeps power from feeding the > > board (and firmware chip) that way; overlooking this > > can derail your attempt to clear it completely with > > a battery pull. > > Where: On the desktop model, after you open the > > case and hinge the drive section over to the right, > > when looking from the front of the machine at the > > mainboard, look in the left side of the case, along > > the left edge of the board, near the back, next to > > the PCI slots. I had to use a flashlight or task > > light to see the charcoal-colored button about 3 or > > 4 mm in diameter. A wooden pencil that has an > > eraser is handy to reach and push the switch without > > slipping, especially since you might have expansion > > cards in the way of putting your whole hand in > > there. > > I'm attaching a Word file that includes a drawing > > of the G3 Gossamer board with identifying notes, > > from MacGurus.com. It may have way more info than > > you need but was the quickest way to send this > > picture-sketch to you. > > I have two G3 Beiges, a Desktop and a Minitower, > > with which I have had many head-scratching > > adventures... so if I can be of any help further (or > > if you need to find out that I can't), feel free to > > write again. > > I currently use a B&W G3 mostly, and have a Centris > > 650, and have been collecting tech info on Macs for > > some time. Apple.com is good but have caught even > > them in a mistake once or twice; XLR8yourMac.com > > (affiliated with Other World Computing, I think) is > > a Mac hotrodders hangout with a lot of information > > (including on Beiges) once you learn your way around > > it. > > Caio! > > Jim > > > > Adam Vaughn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon my newbie-ness, but what and where, exactly, > > is this CUDA button? My machine is a desktop case > > model, if that helps. > > -Adam > > > > -- > > Adam Vaughn > > Collector of old computers, video game systems, > > radios and other electronic > > equipment... > > Visit my page at > > http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/index.html > > > > > > > Adam Vaughn wrote: > > > > > > >Not a bad idea. I've zapped the PRAM settings > > over 20 > > > times so far, > > > >with no luck. I pulled the PRAM battery for an > > hour, > > > put it back in, > > > >zapped the PRAM settings, then tried, but with no > > > luck. I don't even >think the PRAM settings have > > been > > > lost once! I am quite perplexed > > > > to say the very least. > > > >-Adam > > > > > > Adam, > > > I had a similar problem on a Beige, did the same > > > things you did and got nowhere until a lister > > advised > > > me to: > > > 1. Pull the battery > > > 2. Pull the power wire out (important) > > > 3. Leave it overnight, not just a short time > > > 4. Hold down the teeny CUDA Button for at least 30 > > > seconds at the beginning and end of step 3. > > > > > > And try the Open Firmware reset: > > > A: Immediately after you hit the Start button, > > press > > > and hold Command-Option-O-F until the screen gives > > you > > > a command-line prompt that mentions Open Firmware > > > (using the onboard video and Apple monitor this > > works. > > > Using a card such as a Radeon and third-party > > > monitor, screen might stay dark and your next move > > may > > > have to be to hold for a couple of minutes and > > then > > > start typing blind.). > > > Type: set-defaults > > > reset-all > > > > > > This should restart the machine. If you have the > > > Jaguar CD 1 in the drive, it should find it and go > > on. > > > But if it has Panther installed , I wouldn't do > > any > > > disk work from a Jag boot, permissions or > > otherwise. > > > Sometimes messes in firmware require extreme > > > measures. Good Luck! > > > Jim > > > > > > PS: Some versions of the story say you should type > > > > > reset-nvram before anything else in the Open > > Firmware > > > sequence, but that wasn't recognized by my > > machine. > > > Maybe someone else can tell us when that's > > applicable. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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