At 10:54 AM +0100 02/21/2006, Peter Udbjørg wrote:
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But then again, more of my friends are buying=20
used Macs for themselves and new PCs for their=20
children -- because that's what the kids have at=20
school.  A whole new level of Oops.

My kid is not going to get a new PC while dad hangs on to his old mac. She is using pee-sees at school, mostly for games & such, and at home she uses my old mac for games (on-line and CD-rom's). Never ever is a pee see going to cross my threshold!

Good!  I agree wholeheartedly!

What will schools use pee-sees for? Nothing u can use a mac for too. Maths? Composition writing? Maths: Desktop calculators. Composition writing? Text Edit. The only things I can imagine one MUST have office for, is to read/exchange memos with school & other parents. Its a sad fact that Word has become a de facto standard for document exchange.

At the elementary / jr.high / high school level -- many schools here can no longer afford Macs, so MS, Intel, and Dell have stepped in with deals for free or low-cost PCs and software and server infrastructure. This creates certain barriers for Mac-using students.

A few examples, that I've run into over the past 6 months, via my clients:

1) Student cannot view the powerpoint-based homework.

2) Student cannot fetch or submit class assignments over the web. The MS-based web site requires ActiveX for many functions. For others it uses Java, but Apple's Java hangs.

3) Student cannot run the physics experiment simulation app. The software is PC-only, and is unstable and cannot print under Virtual PC.

4) Student cannot run the geometry modeling apps. There is no student version for the Mac, and the PC version doesn't run at all under Virtual PC.

5) Student cannot view the teachers assignment (word doc). The docs open and look great in Word/Win but parts are missing when viewed in every Mac app tried, including Word/Mac.

Now, some of these shortcommings can be overcome if the student is equipped with a *high-end* Mac, and a product such as Virtual PC. But few can afford that. And why buy all that when a Dell box is MUCH cheaper?


Instead of creating new market share, the clone=20
sales simply bit into Apple's.  (Proof that there=20
is a BIG need for more reasonably prices Macs,=20
IMO!)

It did, remember the issue of Macworld where Jobs had taken the helm & cancelled the clone line. And something that also explains The Dark Side's need to be so uptight with their OS-licences, cause that is their only revenue-making stuff, Dell et al profiting from the hardware (but not as much as Apple does, was it about 5% versus 20% profit per unit Dell/Apple?)

Yea, Apple's profit margin is higher than other companies. I think as long as they can sustain product quality, they can maintain that profit. Two things worry me tho: the DOA rate of the new x86 iMacs and MacBooks, and the product supply levels.

I guess my thinking is that: Most Mac users, right now, are higher-end thinkers, and as such will probably always lean toward buying "real" Apple Macs. That right there protects Apple's current 4% market share and its associated revenue. Now add a shrinkwrapped OS X product, that runs on a regular PC... That will attract *new* market share, at say $129 per unit. Those are sales that Apple would never have made!

(rpt fm above)
And something that also explains The Dark Side's need to be so uptight with their OS-licences, cause that is their only revenue-making stuff,

Copyright infringement is a problem, regretfully. I think threatening your customers is the wrong solution. I see only one viable path -- for the copyright holders to change their marketing models. It has been shown time and again that if you lower the price of a highly-pirated product, revenue recovers and often ultimately increases as the pirate market wanes.

- Dan.

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