On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Dan wrote:

>
> At 3:52 PM +1000 4/11/2009, Brian Christmas wrote:
>>
>> To ensure that the HP printer was causing the problem we re-installed
>> it on AppleTalk. Sure enough the server access slowed down again.
>>
>> Un-installed printer - still slow
>> Turned off AppleTalk - still slow
>> Re-booted - still slow.
>
> What else is running AppleTalk?
>
> What other traffic is on that LAN?


Oh my, that dredges up horrible memories of the days when we were  
routing Appletalk (Ethertalk) across campus.

Whenever they had to work on the routers, we had to run around and  
shut down every Appletalk device, because the first device to wake up  
on an Appletalk network is the network master, and seeds the network  
ID's for the rest of the devices.

We had to make sure the router was the first device to wake up or face  
endless slowdowns and the router wouldn't route until we tracked down  
the rogue Mac Plus or Laser<bleeping>Writer that had woken up first  
and said, in their finest Al Haig impression, "I'm in charge here!",  
turned it off, broke the fingers of the user who had ignored the  
sysadmin's orders, and rebooted the router....again.

This fun routine made Macs EVER so popular.

The MOMENT that Appletalk over TCP/IP worked, we stopped routing  
Ethertalk, and cheers erupted all across campus. I think we had a New  
Year's-like countdown for the router update. :-)

It might be possible you've got something like that going on. Shut  
down everything that speaks Appletalk, and if you have a server or  
router that's speaking 'Appletalk', make sure it's the *first* device  
like that your turn on; otherwise just find the fastest Mac speaking  
Appletalk in the network and make sure it's first.

There's a nifty application called Trawler (or Trawl, I forget, this  
was the mid 90's) that will diagram and identify devices on Appletalk  
networks, but it's been a dogs age since I've seen it in the wild.

Possibly the Wayback Machine may be harboring a copy...

-- 
Bruce Johnson

"Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai,  PhD


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