I never got along with vs6 installers, beside the vstudio express has a good ide. At 09:36 AM 11/28/2006, Liam Erven wrote: >usually with an operating system, I wait a year and a half to upgrade. >Knowing with the way a lot of people work, they'll do the same thing. >vs 6 is ancient technology. I don't blame microsoft for not supporting it >in Vista. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:23 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming on Windows Vista? > > >> Hi Ari, >> The entire problem with Vista for us is that Microsoft is being very >> silent and tight jawed about Vista except what they want you to know. >> I've only managed to find out tidbits through talking to other devs who >> have tested it, and stuff I read between the lines on the Vista Platform >> SDK. >> However.... The message I have recieved through the info I have heard >> and read so far is the message they have quietly implied to us is the >> adapt or die attitude. In some ways I can't blame them as they have >> been running the same old libraries for ages, and now the new platform >> SDK is completely new and different. That is why many programs and even >> games or going to die when Vista comes out. Naturally, Vista games will >> not be backward compatible unless the company is using the .NET >> Framework which is backward compatible to any operating system that uses >> the same framework, and in the case of games DirectX as well. >> I do know they will be releasing .NET Framework 3.0 for Win 2000, XP, >> and Windows Server 2003, sometime next year so those operating systems >> will have some compatibility with Vista for sure. 95, 98, ME apps will >> be dead. >> As for DirectX 10 I believe it will bre backward compatible with DirectX >> 9.0 managed. I specified managed which is he .NET version of the DirectX >> libraries. 9.0 had 8.0 compatibility libs for say VB 6, Visual C++ 6, >> etc, but Microsoft has discontinued support for Visual Studio 98, which >> is 6.0, and you can expect anything written in that era of languages are >> going to die a quick death if they don't adapt soon. I saw this coming >> in 20904 and started off with .NET to get ahead of the screaming that >> will accompany the old line VB 6 devs if Vista doesn't support those apps. >> The good news our accessible game developers are slowly but surely >> moving to C#.NET or VB.NET. I know Justin knows VB.NET, Che knows >> VB.NET, Josh I think went to C#.NET, I believe it was Liam playing with >> VB.NET a little bit, I am using C#.NET for all my titles, and that is a >> good sign that developers are in the process of making the switch. >> However, the status of our older titles will have to wait for Vista to >> come out. Perhaps it is not as bad as we think it will be, and it could >> be worse than we think. I know most of the games for accessible games >> are VB 6 like the Kitchens Inc games, the GMA Game Engine, Lone Wolf, >> Trek 2000, Liam's Games, and plenty of others, and if Vista doesn't have >> proper support for those older apps those games are going to crash, and >> the accessible gaming market will come to a screaming hault in that event. >> Either way, Vista is probably going to be a highly expensive upgrade for >> the accessibility community. We will have to upgrade to the latest >> screen readers as I have been told for a fact that anything, I do mean >> anything older, than the latest Jaws or Window eyes will not run on >> Vista and work properly. That is tough as I know people still running >> Jaws 4.5 and 5.0 on XP, Window Eyes 4.2, and so on and they will be >> paying through the nose to fully upgrade screen readers to run with the >> thing. >> If, I mean if, many accessible games don't work, need to be rewitten, I >> can imagine upgrade or repurchase prices would be in order for the work >> involved in porting them to the new operating system which would have to >> be done sooner or later to maintain some kind of value. Else will end up >> like the old dos games fforgotten and unplayed. >> I can see several other programs requiring updates, and the entire >> upgrade becoming an investment. >> However, XP still has allot of life in it and even though Vista will hit >> the seen next year there is nothing wrong in holding to XP for a couple >> of more years buying the necessary upgrades one at a time, and of course >> wait for the accessible games to test and figure out if the products >> will work on Vista or not. All of this is pretty much the hypathetical >> long view on my part. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > >_______________________________________________ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web.
_______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
