The ribbons are perfectly usable. In fact, as a former access tech instructor, I taught them to every student who came through my class. I think the biggest problem with them isn't the ribbons themselves, but rather blind users not understanding how they work. Each ribbon is divided into sub-groups. Each sub-group has controls. Want to jump from control to control, just press tab. Want to jump from group to group, just use control left and control right. The advantage is that you can set tons of options without ever having to go digging through multi-page dialog boxes.
-----Original Message----- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] challenge for developers, post xp windows Is it equally accessible to a blind user, though? The ribbon system is a big pain in the backside, pulldown menus weren't. What works should remain. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] challenge for developers, post xp windows > Hi Charles, > > that's close enough. However, I don't believe anyone said it was right > or particularly. fair. That's just the way business generally works. > > For example, when I took a marketing class in college we studied a > marketing technique called perceived obsolescence. The way it works is > you take an existing product and you find a way to repackage and > resell it to the customer without having to spend much on developing a > new product to replace it. > > So let's say you purchased a brand new computer from Del with an > almond colored case, keyboard, mouse, and flat screen display. Six > months later Del has parts left over from that run so they put them in > a brand new case that is smaller, painted black, and has a matching > USB keyboard, wireless mouse, and flat screen monitor. The > motherboard, hard drive, sound card, etc inside the computer is > exactly the same as you purchased but because of the nice new case, > keyboard and mouse you might think you are getting something new when > it is the same product in a slightly different form. > > A lot of what Microsoft does is for the same reasons. I don't know too > many people who likes the ribbons in Microsoft Office and File > Explorer etc but it looks different. I figure the primary reason they > do it is because of perceived obsolescence. They can take a product > like Wordpad, which has been around for years, and make it new just by > taking out the menu bars, replacing them with ribbons, changing a few > other user interface elements and packing it on their new OS as an > updated version of the software when in reality the software hasn't > changed. There isn't anything new we didn't have before like a spell > checker, grammar checker, thesaurus, whatever, but it looks new and is > marketed as such. > > Cheers! > > On 4/30/13, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote: >> Is this how it works? >> >> Microsoft sells the new OS. That OS doesn't support older hardware and >> software, so hardware and software developers make new products to run on >> the new OS. The computer manufacturers make the new computers that >> handle >> all of this other new stuff. Now, the consumer must buy the new >> computers >> that come with the new software and hardware running the new OS. The >> only >> ones who are short changed are the consumers. If we don't have the money >> to >> >> buy the new for whatever reason, we're screwed. What's wrong with this >> picture from the consumer's side of things? >> >> -- >> If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling >> errors! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
