Hi. This is only one reason why I switch to NVDA, because of the fact that I could not upgrade from my old version of Jaws. It was simply getting worse and worse, with me on one version, and every six months to 12 months, a new version comes out with new abilities, and guess what! I can't use them. This is why I gave up on Jaws, in terms of a home user Situation. I can have versions of NVDA, as up-to-date, as yesterday's code. LOL. I understand however, that there are people that don't want to change, from Jaws, but Berin mind, that a lot of your Windows 7 problems, may in fact have been Jaws, not Windows 7. Even when I change from windows XP, to Windows 7, I had a fact bought a completely new Windows 7 laptop, and put Jaws on it, and guess what. It ran slower. And mind you, the laptop I bought with Windows 7 on it, was our whole lot more powerful than my XP machine ever was. It had three times the RAM, and at least two times the processor power. But as soon as I got rid of Jaws, and used NVDA completely, it ran as fast, as three of my old XP machines put together. LOL. Personally, I think that if Freedom scientific stripped jaws down, and redesigned it for more modern systems, much like Microsoft has done with windows 8 and it's background code, I'd guess that Jaws would be a whole lot better, and more responsive. I think a lot of the problem with Jaws, is that it hasn't been stripped down, and a lot of code has simply built up with buggy versions, on top of buggy versions. So now you have too much that's conflicting, and causing problems. Much like windows used to do. But now that Microsoft has redesigned windows 8 from the ground up, and stripped out a lot of old code, and rubbish that was no longer needed, it runs like a dream.
Regards: Dallas On 02/05/2013, at 16:29, Ken The PionEar <kenwdow...@me.com> wrote: > Well, as I said, I'm not fully knowlegeable on the OS, and there might be > things I'm just not getting. Also, I'm using JFW 11, and I can neither afford > nor am I willing to go for an upgrade. > My son's computer, which has Windows 7, uses NVDA. > Check out my games at > www.ThePionEar.net > and my music, and that of my band, at > www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . > If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, > (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . > Crazy Ken > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <ja...@blindza.co.za> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Vista and 7: was Re: challenge > fordevelopers, post xp windows > > >> Will just say, funny enough, a while ago had a relatively decent spec dell >> laptop that was initially running windows XP on, but when then upgraded it >> to windows7, it firstly booted up in around half the time, but, also >> actually responded better under windows7 - hardware compatibility? >> >> Stay well >> >> Jacob Kruger >> Blind Biker >> Skype: BlindZA >> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken The PionEar" <kenwdow...@me.com> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:57 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Vista and 7: was Re: challenge for >> developers, post xp windows >> >> >>> I definitely don't have look and feel issues when it comes to Windows 7, >>> since I like trying new things. It's purely an issue of response time for >>> me. If I hit a key and it takes a brand spankin' new computer a quarter of >>> a second for Jaws to respond, there is an issue. That same computer just a >>> few months down the road is even worse. I've worked with both my wife's >>> laptop and my son's desktop, both using windows 7, and I'm not impressed. I >>> used to have Vista on my desktop, and other than a lot of buggy behavior it >>> wasn't too bad, but it wasn't like XP. I didn't feel it was stable or >>> responsive. One of its best features was its accessible games. I enjoyed >>> playing Purble Place with my son. >>> Also, I can admit to some ignorance of how to optimize it for speed. I'm >>> sure all the fancy animations and graphics were on, for example. >>> I can't say one way or another as regards to Windows 8 except that i'm >>> itching to try it just to see what it's like. >>> >>> Check out my games at >>> www.ThePionEar.net >>> and my music, and that of my band, at >>> www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . >>> If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, >>> (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . >>> Crazy Ken >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] challenge for developers, post xp windows >>> >>> >>>> Hi Dallas, >>>> >>>> Agreed. It is sort of amusing because as you said Microsoft has stuck >>>> with the XP look and feel for so long that users forgot what it was >>>> like to go from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 or from Windows 98 to XP. >>>> Both offered major changes in the user interface and I don't remember >>>> people screaming quite as loudly or as fanatically as they are over >>>> Windows 7 and Windows8. >>>> >>>> However, what I think they need is a point of comparison. As you >>>> pointed out is that other operating systems haven't stood still or >>>> been quite as static as Windows has been for the last ten or so years. >>>> The Linux graphical desktop environments like Gnome have constantly >>>> been updating and evolving little by little until we have something >>>> completely different from what we had ten ore more years ago. Today >>>> Gnome 3.8 is as different from Gnome 2.8 as Windows 8 is from XP, but >>>> that change was gradual rather than over night. There was some >>>> grumbling on the Orca list when Gnome whent from Gnome 2.32 to 3.0, >>>> but those were mainly over access issues rather than the UI changes. >>>> >>>> This might sound a bit harsh,but I think Windows users are a bit >>>> spoiled by the fact Microsoft chose to keep their user interface as >>>> long as they have. Apple, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, and pretty much >>>> anybody who is anyone has been changing their user interfaces from >>>> version to version and Microsoft just chose to hit their customers all >>>> at once rather than ease them into it the way other software companies >>>> have. >>>> >>>> On 5/1/13, Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> It's kind of ironic. Apple in a lot of ways, invented what we now know as >>>>> windows. Microsoft actually use the ideas that apple used originally. Mind >>>>> you, Apple didn't invent it either really. They technically got it from >>>>> Xerox. LOL. So blame Xerox. >>>>> The interesting thing about this, is that people are complaining about how >>>>> different windows 8 is to Windows 7 and earlier. Because Microsoft didn't >>>>> change very much in Windows for so long, So the change now has come as >>>>> somewhat of a shock to some people. Especially those that have been using >>>>> windows for some time. >>>>> Of course, Apple has been changing continually, over a long period of >>>>> time, >>>>> making small changes here and there, so as not to make it such a jarring >>>>> experience. Microsoft has made the mistake, of waiting too long before >>>>> making a change to windows in a major way. Whereas Apple has done it >>>>> slowly >>>>> over about 10 years. >>>>> >>>>> It's kind of amusing, to hear people talking about 32-bit and 64-bit >>>>> Windows, and what software can run on one and what can't run on the other. >>>>> Because, quite simply, Apple made the choice to go permanently 64-bit. >>>>> Because of this, they don't tend to have this kind of problem. About the >>>>> only thing that doesn't run now, Would be older apps designed for the old >>>>> processes. So Apple have in fact made the jump to 64-bit completely, >>>>> whereas >>>>> windows is still again, a kind of half way measure, where you can do both. >>>>> It would be so much simpler, if Microsoft would do the same. Make >>>>> everything >>>>> 64-bit, if you want support for anything else, you will have to use >>>>> emulators, or an old computer. >>>>> And in fact, from all the information we have got now, the next major >>>>> version of windows, is going to do Exactly that. There will be no 32-bit >>>>> version. And it's about time. LOL. All of our computers that we have >>>>> bought >>>>> for the last six years or more, minus the netbooks, are 64-bit capable. So >>>>> there is no reason to hold back, and keep using 32-bit versions of >>>>> windows. >>>>> Of course, this was done for compatibility, with older programs. >>>>> >>>>> But what is being said now, is 99% of everything that is out there now, is >>>>> either a 32-bit program, or a 64-bit program. 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