well I'd prefur to go for the updated versions ofcause.
but stuff like shades of doom still uses the old direct sound libs
and well, the fact is they are quite old no matter that the panning
works nicly.
I think for now at least making all the game engines bgt, etc to use
the modern tech if they are already not doing so that should at least
slown down the decline.
However its good we are having this debate now because its always
crossed my mind how nice it would be to convert totally to new stuff
without bothering about old software and extra stuff to use.
At 11:21 AM 9/13/2013, you wrote:
Hi Charles,
Here is the bottom line. It is extra work. In some cases extra work
that does not benefit me personally in any, way, shape or form.
To give you an example I am working on a version of Tomb Hunter
designed from a 3d first-person point of view. Therefore I need to
have decent 5.1 surround sound and 3d audio support. There is a
technical problem with this though.
DirectSound 8, the library XP uses, works fine on Windows XP, but does
not work correctly on Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8. So if I
satisfy my XP customers by using DirectSound everyone running Vista,
Windows 7, or Windows 8 won't be able to play the game at all because
the audio API is broken. To fix it I have to yank out the DirectSound
code and replace it with something else like XAudio2. That involves a
boat load of extra work, time, and personal frustration just to fix
something I could have avoided to start with.
From the way it sounds you think I should resolve this by charging
upgrade fees. That is to say I can charge $30 for the XP version, and
if you later want the version for Windows 8 I can charge you $15 for
the new version. Sounds fair to me, but I have a feeling that Windows
8 users would be pretty ticked off if I charged them $15 to fix a
problem I could have avoided in the first place by not using
DirectSound and by using the new libraries to begin with. Plus as a
Windows 8 user I would not want to design my game using old libraries
that are broken only to take days perhaps weeks fixing it after the
fact. To heck with that!
Cheers!
On 9/12/13, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> That's why there should be a version that will take advantage of the newer
> technology in the works, slowly being developed, as well as one that will
> work on XP that is more quickly developed. If we like the XP compatible
> version and we must migrate to the newer OS, we will gladly pay for the
> newer version that will probably have better performance and more options.
>
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