Sadly charlse that's not how most coroproations work, ---- what, do something against the main corproate policy? they could get into trouble!

I'm actually serious on this, the amount of times I've asked for some sort of access considderation and been told some varient of "sorry head office won't let me" is quite ridiculous, in coorporations, governmental organizations, even charrities!

As I said, the bigger the ant hill, the bigger the stink.

Beware the Grue!

dark.
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Possibly, just because a corporation does not offer a braille menu, a manager might do so. Just because The Game Stop does not sell accessible chess equipment, one store might be able to accommodate a blind chess enthusiast. In order to get to the top, you've got to start at the bottom. Maybe, with enough requests, the word will get to the top, eventually.

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Hi Dark:

All too true. We have been over this ground before, and unfortunately
there is not much we can do as individuals. Especially, when
organizations and so forth is not on our side in the case of providing
access to products and services.

For example, I know there are a number of game studios over their in
the U.K. They would probably listen more to someone like the RNIB
rather than you. However, the RNIB has no interest in getting in
contact with those game studios about accessibility when they have
their own agenda which pretty much includes everyone over 60 and to
hell with anyone else. Its obvious when the only games they support is
the Azabat games when there are accessible games from GMA, Draconis,
and so on to give them a bigger catalog but don't.

Unfortunately, in cases like that the situation isn't always better
over here. We have the NFB which claims to be looking out for the
interests of the blind they represent, but all too often it seems like
they try and play both ends at the middle. What I mean by that is they
are on both sides of every issue and it is hard to get a straight
answer from them what they actually stand for regarding certain
issues. In any case I don't think they consider accessible games a
high priority so even though they have considerable influence they
will only champion the issues that they think are important, and
needless to say the NFB and I don't agree on what is and is not
important.

However, getting back to the point, as an individual companies be they
a multimillion dollar restaurant chain or a game studio they will swat
us off as easily as swatting a gnat. We neither have the money or
influence to get them to listen. However, we can effect local
businesses and indie developers and if more and more of them adopt
accessibility it will slowly trickle up to the corporations who will
see that accessibility isn't as expensive or difficult as they
imagine.

Cheers!


On 12/10/13, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Unfortunately as usual, getting in touch with anyone who actually matters in

a corporation is near impossibel. However pleasant the staff, even the
management are, they can't affect any change in their huge faceless
corporate empire that is run from some massive office somewhere else.

As with game access this is another case of the larger the ant hill, the
bigger the stink!

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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