Hi Tom,

There is a flaw in Dark’s logic though, and in that of many other’s. I don’t 
believe when trying out a new system for the first time, bet hat Mac or Linux 
or Windows 7, that you can spend only a handful of hours with something 
radically different from what you’re used to and come away with a reasonably 
informed and valid opinion of it. Operating systems can vary tremendously in 
terms of how the user interfaces with them, and it takes quite some time for 
your previous experiences to stop interfering with your usage of the new system.

Case in point…a friend and colleague of mine got a Mac, and for the first week 
or two hated it. He came very close to whipping the drive and installing 
Windows and forgetting OS X entirely.

Then something happened at about the two week mark, when finally something 
clicked for him, and he started to overcome those barriers that are built 
through long use of an OS. Today, he’s an avid Mac user and would never go back 
to Windows, despite having been a Windows user for nearly fifteen years.

I see this pattern again and again with people trying out different operating 
systems.

So, no matter the OS, I take no one very seriously who claims their opinion is 
informed because it is based on a few hours with a brand-new OS.

I spent several weeks with Linux a few years back, and while it isn’t for me, 
and I feel it has far more headaches than it is worth, I do understand its 
appeal and get why some people choose to use it. I won’t speak with any 
authority on Windows 8, because I haven’t spent any significant time with it. I 
read with interest experiences of those who have spent significant time with 
it, and dismiss those who used it for a day and declared it junk.

On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dark,
> 
> That is all a reasonable person can ask. If a person doesn't like the
> software they don't like it. At least though you tried it to give
> examples of why it does not work for you personally.
> 
> For example, I have been using Windows 8 on my Toshiba for a few
> months, have grown accustom to the new user interface, and yet I have
> seen my fair share of blind users who say they absolutely hate it and
> have never tried it yet. I can understand someone's dislike if they
> have it, have used it for a couple of months, and still don't like it,
> but not if they base their opinions on what they have heard from
> others. I think if a person is going to voice an opinion one way or
> another they should at least use the software a bit and then give
> voice siting their opinion with examples of why they do not like it
> from their personal experience.
> 
> The same would hold true for Mac, Linux, or anything else. I think if
> someone is to give a reasonable opinion they need to spend a bit of
> quality time with the software in question before voicing an opinion
> one way or the other.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> On 12/16/13, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>> I actually would like to play with a mac at some point, indeed my brother is
>> 
>> getting one over christmas so I might ask for a list of common vo commands
>> at just have a poke around the os for the experience, since if I don't know
>> 
>> I don't know.
>> 
>> Btw, this is why I do say I difinatively dislike windows 7, since I spent
>> several hours playing with it then after our last discussion I went to a
>> local society for the blind and spent considderably more time with it,
>> and ---- no!
>> 
>> But at least my opinion is informed by some degree of experience with the
>> subject.
>> 
>> Beware the grue!
>> 
>> Dark.
> 
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