Hi Dark,

I too dislike 1D side scrollers and after trying a few I was put off of trying more. Because of that I may not have a good concept of which games actually stretch that boundary and become more 2D.

Fortunately I finally tried bokurano daiboukenn 3 yesterday and was quite impressed.
It is a fully 2D platformer.
Your character is one space tall and can jump 3 spaces higher than himself.
The jumps seem somewhat analog since if you want to jump onto a high ledge that has a gap underneath it you must make sure to move to the right at the middle of your jump rather than right after you jump.

While I think it is still far more difficult than playing a mainstream platformer with vision it does work reasonably well. I think there are a few more improvements that could be made, but the author has done a good job and any developer wanting to experiment in this area should try BK3 first to see how the author has solved some of the problems so they don't go re-inventing the wheel.

I know you're not excited about going through the setup required to play Japanese games. I was not either, which is why it took me 4 and a half months since Bladestorm360's Guide to playing Japanese games and Clement Chou's earlier guide before I finally got setup.

I ran into 2 hitches during setup which were quite frustrating.
The first was getting the Japanese keyboard installed because NVDA reported a treeview item as a list view item and so I did not realize I had to expand it to get down to the actual check box items. You might not hit the same issue since we are running different versions of Windows and different screen readers. The second was because BK3 did not output to the clipboard by default and I had to use control C to grab the Japanese text of the screen before using instant translate to convert it to English. Once I got BK3 copying it's output to the clipboard the process became much more smooth.

I recommend finding some time to devote to getting through the Japanese game setup process.

If you're not ready to do that yet then you should try a game called 2D Platformer located here:
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=12126

2DP uses the English language and copies many of the game mechanics of BK3.
It is more of a game prototype at this stage though, demonstrating the movement mechanics, where BK3 is a completed game with hazards, enemies, items, gold coins, experience, character levels, and stat growth. But for me it was a teaser to get me to finally setup to play Japanese games.

Anyway, I still think platformers have lots of room for improvement, but it is nice to see games stretching the bounds.

Ian Reed
Try my free games at http://BlindAudioGames.com


On 1/1/2014 5:52 AM, dark wrote:
Hi chris.

Well I'm less certan on the representative qualities of sound since as you know audio and visual processing are handled diferently anyway and past experiments have usually resulted in something with stoo much information that is hard to interpret, rather than something which is of practical bennifit, indeed the best informational aides I've sseen have been those that extend existing sensory input, such as ultra sonic canes.

Getting aay from cognitive science however and back to games, while I fully agree that wanting to represent something like Mortal combat or call of duty for those who've muddled through and got a partial experience with sound is not a good idea, at the same time there is validity in examining why specific genres of games and redesigning accordingly.

As one example, I have for years played exploration platformers like Turrican, Metroid and mega man, yet it somewhat irritates me that the closest we have come to such things in audio are 1D only, and that many peopel expressly do not like side scrollers when in effect they have not seen a truly 2D side scrolling game.

While something like metroid might be pushing it, i don't believe the barrier of showing vertical movement is quite as absolute as people seem to think, and working on ways of that sort of representation can only be helpful, just as David greenwood worked on ways to easily represent large scale 2D map information in Time of Conflict.

Btw, If you haven't tried Zero site yet i'd recommend trying that. It is different to 3D velocity, though is also an audio flight sim, however features some interesting changes like randomly occurring enemies.

Beware the grue!

dark.

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