To be honest Charlse I do think your being harsh, but not because of what you say about games, simply because we have no information about these mythical people who committed suicide over d&D.

Suicide is pretty drastic and a person needs to be in a fairly extreme position to contemplate it seriously, and the same arguemenet could be made for murder. If some mythical D&D player did commit suicide or murder, I'd wager there was rather more going on and a rather more complex reason involved than just "because of D&D"

That is why I mentioned D&D being a social activity sinse a lot of causes for that sort of action tend to be about people's interactions.

I'd suggest myself that if a D&D player did! commit suicide, those who ascribe D&D as a single cause are over simplifying in the extreme, like those people who blaime all society's problems on alcohol, or comunism, or tv, or insert favourite bad influence.

Indeed, sinse all of this sounds pretty speculatory anyway I'm not entirely sure myself if this isn't scare mongering anyway.

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People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with.

And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about.

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I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game.



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@Jody, D&D evil?

I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp
game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent
gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil
characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever
commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create
the realistic world the game happens in.

I have heard some religious zealots say D&D is evil simply because it
involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious
zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious
mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the
Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty
making sense of.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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