Wow, I've been rather productive today! Don't know how many messages I sent, 
but it's quite a few. Anyway, this just popped up in my mind. I think the 
main problem is the instant messaging sharing. I mean people who own cracked 
software and share them with friends, and those friends will certainly share 
it themselves. Thus you'll get a whole chain of people that is hard to stop.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software


  Hi, regarding being on topic,  I think this this is absolutely on topic.
If we don't do something about the rampant piracy of accessible games out
there, we are going to have a harder and harder time convincing developers
to spend the time to develop quality games, and I am one of those developers
along with several others on this list.
  If we can convince just a handful of these sites to not host this crap, we
will be doing ourselves a great service in the long run.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software


>I agree that a lot of Access Technology is real expensive. However, what we
> here at Gw Micro have done to try and help the end user is come up with a
> payment plan. This is good for someone who wants to purchase Window-Eyes
> with their own money and cannot afford the total cost up front. Liam has
> already very well stated why AT tends to be more expensive and so i will
> not
> get into that. Just know that it's not just AT which is real expensive.
> Have
> you seen the latest cost of Microsoft Office 2007 lately? How about
> Microsoft MySQL for multiple Enterprise machines? What I'm saying is that
> software, development, and support is not cheap.
>
> If you want to learn about the Window-Eyes payment plan, visit
> www.gwmicro.com/lto where you can get all the details.
>
> We really need to get back on topic now. Many thanks.
>
> --
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Talksina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software
>
>
>> well,
>> not to open a flame about this, but, talking about other
>> blind-related software, they are really really really too expensive!
>> I do not talk about games, that cost maximum 40 euro. And, that, for
>> example, a user wanting to play a game, can use his/her money to buy
>> the game, instead of... buying cigarettes, or something else that is
>> damaging his health.
>> But what, in my opinion, is too expensive, are other kind of
>> softwares. Think about Jaws, Window-Eyes, Talks or MobileSpeak for
>> mobile phones, Sapi5 synths (such as Loquendo)...
>> Your discussion is valid for games, or small softwares (such as
>> VoiceEmotion or PowerGramo, the voip assistants), goldwave, sound
>> forge and so on
>> But you lie to yourself if you say that you wouldn't desire to have
>> free access to your computer or mobile phone, or, at least, to spend
>> less money! Not to have to spend the double price because we are
>> blind, for a device which is sold to sighted people with an accessible
>> price
>> Yes, they could develop something free in that case, too. There is a
>> tool called NVDA for computers, and a Sapi5 called eSpeak, not high
>> quality but open source and free
>> but not for mobile phones
>> In general, I am against software piracy, as it damages the
>> alternative free or low-cost software, but I do not lie to myself:
>> most of softwares we NEED, are a real theft.
>> Think about what happened on eMule 2 years ago
>> An anonymous user, having the machine on 24 hours a day, started to
>> distribute a file called "nokia talks 2.xx IMEI key generator", which
>> just contained an executable wich, once launched, destroyed all
>> computer data: everything in hard disk, internal or external or
>> partitions, was removed
>> There is no possibility to get any proof on that, but many people
>> thought (and think) this comes from Nuance, Talks producer, but
>> writing this on the Internet, as there are no proof, could cause
>> problems. So, as we say in Italy, "incarta e porta a casa". That is,
>> literally translated, pack it and take it home. It means, take it as it
>> is
>>
>>
>
>
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