Just my thought, but screen reader piracy isn't on topic for the list. Games are, so that part of the discussion would be OK. -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software
> Hi, regarding being on topic, I think this this is absolutely on topic. > If we don't do something about the rampant piracy of accessible games out > there, we are going to have a harder and harder time convincing developers > to spend the time to develop quality games, and I am one of those > developers > along with several others on this list. > If we can convince just a handful of these sites to not host this crap, > we > will be doing ourselves a great service in the long run. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software > > >>I agree that a lot of Access Technology is real expensive. However, what >>we >> here at Gw Micro have done to try and help the end user is come up with a >> payment plan. This is good for someone who wants to purchase Window-Eyes >> with their own money and cannot afford the total cost up front. Liam has >> already very well stated why AT tends to be more expensive and so i will >> not >> get into that. Just know that it's not just AT which is real expensive. >> Have >> you seen the latest cost of Microsoft Office 2007 lately? How about >> Microsoft MySQL for multiple Enterprise machines? What I'm saying is that >> software, development, and support is not cheap. >> >> If you want to learn about the Window-Eyes payment plan, visit >> www.gwmicro.com/lto where you can get all the details. >> >> We really need to get back on topic now. Many thanks. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos .. Co-Moderator | http://www.asmodean.net >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Talksina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software >> >> >>> well, >>> not to open a flame about this, but, talking about other >>> blind-related software, they are really really really too expensive! >>> I do not talk about games, that cost maximum 40 euro. And, that, for >>> example, a user wanting to play a game, can use his/her money to buy >>> the game, instead of... buying cigarettes, or something else that is >>> damaging his health. >>> But what, in my opinion, is too expensive, are other kind of >>> softwares. Think about Jaws, Window-Eyes, Talks or MobileSpeak for >>> mobile phones, Sapi5 synths (such as Loquendo)... >>> Your discussion is valid for games, or small softwares (such as >>> VoiceEmotion or PowerGramo, the voip assistants), goldwave, sound >>> forge and so on >>> But you lie to yourself if you say that you wouldn't desire to have >>> free access to your computer or mobile phone, or, at least, to spend >>> less money! Not to have to spend the double price because we are >>> blind, for a device which is sold to sighted people with an accessible >>> price >>> Yes, they could develop something free in that case, too. There is a >>> tool called NVDA for computers, and a Sapi5 called eSpeak, not high >>> quality but open source and free >>> but not for mobile phones >>> In general, I am against software piracy, as it damages the >>> alternative free or low-cost software, but I do not lie to myself: >>> most of softwares we NEED, are a real theft. >>> Think about what happened on eMule 2 years ago >>> An anonymous user, having the machine on 24 hours a day, started to >>> distribute a file called "nokia talks 2.xx IMEI key generator", which >>> just contained an executable wich, once launched, destroyed all >>> computer data: everything in hard disk, internal or external or >>> partitions, was removed >>> There is no possibility to get any proof on that, but many people >>> thought (and think) this comes from Nuance, Talks producer, but >>> writing this on the Internet, as there are no proof, could cause >>> problems. So, as we say in Italy, "incarta e porta a casa". That is, >>> literally translated, pack it and take it home. It means, take it as it >>> is >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
