Hey Tom, well I believe I prefer Apophis to Set. I also would rather have the Ancient Egyptian names instead of the English translations. I also like Ancient Egyptian myths, pyramids, and other things of the time; however, I doubt that I know a 1/4 of what you seem to know about them. Good luck, Bean
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:18 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Thoughts about a tomb hunter game. Hi all, As many of you are aware I have been thinking of doing a Tomb Raider style clone called "Tomb Hunter." However, in so doing I need to change elements with in the Tomb Raider story such as main characters, enemies, etc to make my game more my own then a one to one outright copy of Tomb Raider. For example, in Tomb Raider IV Lara Croft is on a quest to find the Amulet and Armour of Horus in order to slay the evil Egyptian god Set. Set for that game was the primary villen, and is public domain since he is a major character in Egyptian myth and legend. However, as an amature historian myself I know that Set, called Seth by Greek writers, wasn't an enemy in the earliest Egyptian writings. His character was the younger brother of Osiris , and he was the primary guardian of Ra. His roll was to protect Ra from the evil serpent god Apep, called Apophis by the Greek writers, and was a sort of heroic figure. He usually was depicted in hieroglyphs as a half-man half-dog like creature. As the centuries passed he began to take on a more adversarial roll in Egyptian myth. He became jellus of Osiris, and wanted Osiris's wife, Isis, and so he eventually murders Osiris. Set then becomes king of Egypt, lord of the gods, and Isis flees. Where she, as myth has it, bares Osiris a son Horus who grows up to defeat Set, and becomes the heir of Osiris and a god in his own right. A few more centuries pass and in Egyptian tales Set becomes the lord over Upper Egypt while Horus is the lord of Lower Egypt. When Egypt was united historians recognize Set and Horus sort of got melded into one character or a duel god like character. Eventually, Set became associated as Apep, lord of the underworld, and began showing up in Egyptian records as a crocodile, snake, dragon, etc which had formally been reserved to forms of Apep, and Apep falls out of Egyptian writings. I'm writing all this biographical and historical information to get to the heart of what I want to ask. Do you guys think I should replace Set, (Seth,) as the villen for Tomb Hunter in favor of Apophis? I think Apophis, (apep,) makes a much more cool enemy, and here is wy. Apophis was said to be able to change between several different forms such as a crocodile, giant snake, lizard, hippo, etc. He had the ability to hitmatise an enemy with his eyes. He could bite a person injecting them with a deadly venom. He also could curl up like a snake around them and crush them to death. As a super villen he certainly makes an interesting read in the ancient Egyptian stories. As I illistrated above Set has two different basic characters. One of the hero which was the dog like character which wouldn't fit to fight. The later Set has all the qualities of Apophis, but has the added advantage of adding in the conflict between Horus and Set. Though, if I use Set one has to keep in mind this idea of Set as an advarsarial character is totally dependant on time and Egyptian scribes which changed his character by renaming Apep to Set. So if you could pick would you have Apep or Set? One other question I have is would you like the English translations of the names or the Greek ones. In English the gods are Set and Apep. In the Greek stories, later retellings of the stories, they were called Seth and Apophis. _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.8/941 - Release Date: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.