Hi Rob and Trouble, thanks for these, just one other question, have you guys tried Alan and what is it like? I'm asking because I also like it's interface when playing games. I'll try inform and see what happens, but is there a guide for beginners? I know even for programming, Tom talks about Safari, but I wanted to also look on blindprogramming, and, I don't know if it's just me, but the site seems totally weird! I remember in the old days there were tutorials and stuff, but now there's this weird login screen which doesn't even seem to have anything to do with blindprogramming anyway! Ari
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