Hi thomas,

Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves
in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is
doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both
the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high
price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days
before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to
get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the
postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's
not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7.

Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes,
personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although
I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the
net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to
keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being
very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old
versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150
as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my
system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in
march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade.
That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme,
I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a
penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you
how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times
they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere
don't they "evil laugh". 

-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks


Hi Daren,
Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The 
manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes 
presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest 
and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That
might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a 
fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom 
Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software. 
All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers, 
to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation.
Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by 
using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window 
eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization 
disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the 
passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my 
profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and 
everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at 
least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being 
hampered by restrictive product licensing.
In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the 
same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I 
haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of 
having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer, 
buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys 
for every game I want to play.

Darren Harris wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain 
> stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram 
> replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well 
> jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as 
> you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her 
> local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because 
> jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to 
> obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the 
> product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so 
> ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem.
>   


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