Hi, Personally I think we're beating a dead horse here. Come on, guys. I know I'm not the moderator, but...
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft well I wish we got come message. any message. I mean its fine to say what you think but the point is there has been no messages from that place for at least 5 years or more. At 11:04 a.m. 29/11/2010, you wrote: >Hi Laurie, >Under normal circumstances I quite agree. But sometimes I think >people forget that most of these so-called companies are run by one >person with possibly a bunch of friends helping out with sounds and >voices. If the programming, web maintenance and whole company >management is all taken on by one person, it does become a problem >if that person has had some issues with whatever for whatever >reason. But in my opinion nobody is to blame for that. That is of >course unless someone decides they can't be bothered to do any more >maintenance or even tell anybody. That is wrong. But if something >has generally got in the way of developing - if he's turned out ill >for whatever reason, or something has genuinely happened to stop him >from doing anything, then I don't believe he should be getting the >backfire he is currently getting. >Regards, >Damien. > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Duncan" <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:59 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft > > >>Personally if it were me I'd keep going with my game creating and >>to heck with what people say! If there's more people who love the >>games than don't then you've got something worth fighting for, but >>to just completely vanish is quite disappointing, especially to new >>gamers who don't know the score, it reflects badly on the company >>if you just exit quickly without a reason. >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Damien Pendleton" >><dam...@x-sight-interactive.net> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:26 PM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft >> >> >>>Guys, >>>IMHO, it is precisely this sort of critical attitude that causes >>>game developers to feel disheartened and want to stop developing >>>games. It is precisely those sorts of remarks and comments that >>>put me off writing games for a while after the Acefire performance. >>>If I remember rightly there was a time when the owner of Bavisoft >>>himself was part of the list, and he was getting flamed pretty >>>badly. Yes that was a while ago, but it still happened, and now it >>>looks like he's disappeared off the face of the earth, and they're >>>still being flamed. >>>It was an attempt at marketing, and I believe a very good one. >>>Considering Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham were their very first >>>games, I think they were awesome. The only thing I'm slightly >>>disappointed about is I don't think we'll ever see the front cover >>>of Chillingham II, let alone an audio trailer. >>>They must have had a very good reason for not communicating any >>>more. Things happen in people's lives that consumers don't seem to >>>think can happen to businessmen. And although I don't personally >>>know this Jeff Gibbons, I'm sure all he had at heart were good intentions. >>>Just my opinion on the matter. >>>Regards, >>>Damien. >>> >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiny protector" >>><muhamme...@googlemail.com> >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:13 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft >>> >>> >>>>They are seriously irresponsible idiots. Bavisoft, if you are >>>>just stupid dunderheads, that's what you get! Seriously, their >>>>games are not worth it. Who would want to buy grizzly gulch and >>>>perchous it in stead of a demo? Actually I've thought that >>>>Bavisoft are just freaking idiots and I wouldn't be surprised if >>>>their servers get hacked, or if their games are hacked because >>>>they are just brainless with no brains. Lol. Actually Hey, I am >>>>the owner of bavisoft. I don't get any games, its a big surprise. >>>>Because are you brainless? Your being accusatory! Booooooooooo! I >>>>think they should be called babysoft. >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com> >>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:55 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft >>>> >>>> >>>>>I havn't touched their site for ages. >>>>>the last time I touched it it was last year. >>>>>nothing has been released, nothing has been communicated. >>>>>their games exist if you know where to get them. >>>>>If they are hacked and they probably are then it serves them right. >>>>>They didn't really do to much for us and now they get it. >>>>>Oh well. >>>>>I wouldn't even bother going back. >>>>>No communications = no existance at all as far as I care. >>>>>At 05:06 a.m. 29/11/2010, you wrote: >>>>>>Hi all >>>>>>I have been following numerous threads on this list about >>>>>>bavisoft and I am >>>>>>fully aware that they are not in touch with the blind community. >>>>>>But I decided to check out their website this afternoon just to see how >>>>>>their website looks like. >>>>>>And I got a warning telling me the website www.bavisoft.com contains >>>>>>malware. I refrained from visiting the website for now.Is this really the >>>>>>case? >>>>>>I got to a google page that witnessed that they found malware >>>>>>on bavisoft on >>>>>>22 november. >>>>>>Do I need to take this warning seriously or can I ignore the warning? >>>>>>Have anybody been on bavisoft's website lately? >>>>>>If their site really contains malware, do you think that its >>>>>>their intention >>>>>>to put malware on their site? >>>>>>This google page said that in some cases, although the >>>>>>people owning the >>>>>>website, did not intend to put malware on their site, other >>>>>>people may put >>>>>>malware on the site. >>>>>>I haven't heard any wicked things about bavisoft, only that >>>>>>they do not get >>>>>>back to their customers. >>>>>>I just thought of letting everybody know of this. >>>>>>Happy gaming. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>--- >>>>>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management >>>>>>of the list, >>>>>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- >>>>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management >>>>>of the list, >>>>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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