Ah yes, I remember those Doom things. My dad had a Simpsons one tat was
pretty funny. Homer was the main character dude and then I think Moe was
used for some of the monsters. I'm gonna shove a sausage down ya throat
and...well I won't finish that line since it is rather rude. But it was
pretty funny. Then anytime you picked up ammo or anything it would play a
sound of Homer eating donuts and then saying More. I think there was even a
Santa Clause scheme. But I'm with Thomas on this issue. When it comes to
games I play I wouldn't complain about a level editor provided it was
reasonably easy to use, but when it comes to any games I might develop
(although I don't know if BGT yet offers or will ever offer that
capability), I'm not entirely sure I'd want to add a level editor. When I
make a game I want to make it how I want it to be. I'll add reasonable
suggestions and features but only so long as I feel they fit well within the
context of the game.
We are the Knights who saaaaay...Ni!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Creation Tools
Hi Phil,
Well, to be honest I have mixed feelings about that subject. I do
certainly understand the desire to have level editors, but at the same
time I want the games to be created the way I invisioned it rather
than have someone else add his or her ideas to it and completely
change the nature of the game.
For example, over the course of developing Mysteries of the Ancients
I've seen all kinds of rediculous ideas. Several of them asking to add
this or that creature from Harry Potter, and they aren't necessarily
Greek in origen. Understandably I'd be upset, to say the least, if
there were a bunch of Harry Potter mods floating around as that would
totally kill the game for me. Mysteries of the Ancients is to be a
spin off from Tomb Raider not Harry Potter or anything else. So people
would have to stick to that storyline, but if you give them a level
editor there is no saying that is what they will do.
On the other hand games that have level editors etc have become quite
popular with the public. One such game, Doom, was hugely successful
because of the wad creation tools for the game. Back in the early to
mid 90's there were several custom wads for Doom including a
Terminator wad pack, Star Wars wad pack, etc and it really allowed
gamers like you and I to create our own games using the Doom engine.
As a end user I thought it was cool.
However, now that I'm a game developer myself my feelings have changed
about allowing end users the right to create there own custom game
levels with an existing game. For one thing any game I personally
create is something of a work of art as Geremy pointed out in another
thread. So when people change the game I labored to write, create a
certain way, I'm a bit offended as they are in effect saying they
don't like the game I spent countless hours, days, weeks, etc working
on. They want something else, and are just using my game to build some
other game they want.
On 2/1/11, Phil Vlasak <p...@pcsgames.net> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I like your idea but in one specific area.
It would allow game players to add new levels to existing USA games such
as
David did with Lone Wolf.
I would enjoy adding new levels to MOTA or new tracks to Raceway.
One thing that the LW level generator does not allow is user supplied
sounds.
So if you like this idea, then there should be a way of adding new sounds
and creatures.
Phil
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