Hi Michael, Dunno if it's fair to say that Linux is the only market trying to make their system fully accessible, nor whether it's fair to say it's the perfect platform for us. I'd touche with Mac OS and iOS. VoiceOver and Zoom are fully integrated into both OSs, aren't going anywhere, and both seem to move forward with each major revision of the OS. True, the initial price you have to shell out for the hardware is higher than you'd need to shell out to get a bare bones Linux system up and running, but the advantage you gain is a more consistent GUI on top of equal access to the command line.
I'm not dumbing down what's happening on the Linux front at all man, far from it, just felt it necessary to say that there's more than one variety of rose to smell in this space, should anybody feel like waking up and taking a good long snort. Scott On 2/16/11, Frost <znvyyv...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:01:24AM +1300, shaun everiss wrote: >> on that note we almost want to build the console round a preexisting >> engine. > > Yeah, but how is the majority of the blind community going to > pay for all of this, especially in this economy. If we're not on > welfare, then we're spending the majority of our money on accessibility > items to try to keep current with our work environments. $1000 for a > screen reader, $2000 for an accessible PDA or smart-phone, $4000 for an > accessible GPS, $10,000 for a braill display... > > Windows and the game console market simply doesn't want to deal > with us. We're an unprofittable nitch market, and they have to charge > us 10 times the going rates just to break even on any project. > > Eventually you guys are gonna wake up and smell the roses and > realize that Linux is the only market out there that's even trying to > make their system fully accessible. The SpeakUP screen reader is now > part of the Linux kernel, making the text console fully accessible. It > will remain part of Linux from now on, unlike Windows Narrator, which > only supports the Windows operating system itself, and nothing else. > You can't even use it to go on the web to find something better like > NCDA. You can't even use Narrator to help you install Windows, unlike > Linux, which has many distributions with accessible installation setups. > > The developers of the Orca screen reader for the Linux GUI have > also come a long way. I only have a monitor still, because I only > occasionally need sighted assistance for something, and with a little > scripting in a few other languages, they're working on supporting it > all, and they're not charging anyone a cent. Have a problem? File a > bug report and watch it get fixed. > > Like Thomas said, the game console development market just blew > him off when he assed for more support for accessibility. It's only > recently since they started adding wheelchair ramps in standard design > for public access. You're not going to find it for the home design > market for a long time to come, let alone the kitchen appliance market. > > I hope you folks wake up soon and see what Linux is doing for > us, and doing it in a big way, and doing it all free of charge. If > there's any platform out there made for us, it's Linux. Yes, there's a > steep learning curve, but DOS had the same curve in the beginning. > Without our support and input, Linux just may end up being another > Windows Narrator, and that would be a shame. All I know, is that my > Linux console is accessible from power-on to power off now, and when I > hear you folks discussing writing for other platforms, I can only wonder > how insane it all sounds. If you want to pick up your brooms and > continue sweeping up the sighted community's messes, feel free. We > Linux converts will just sit back and laugh and shake our heads. You're > only hurting yourselves, bashing your brains against the wall again and > again. > > Michael > > -- > Linux User: 177869 # Powered By: Intel # http://rivensight.dyndns.org > Postings Copyrighted 2010-2011 by: Michael Ferranti > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
