You can also try turning off the screen. -----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 29 April 2011 15:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Disconnect the mouse and put it in a drawer. Get students to be able to use the keyboard. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <troub...@columbus.rr.com> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage > You just hit on the number one way Microsoft got so big with the pc. They > made it moron proof by just click. > I am currently training someone with sight on the computer. They are not > doing to bad. I did get them to start thinking that just because the info > shows up on the browser it is still not on the computer. Now if I could > only get this mouser not to be so right click happy. > > At 08:38 AM 4/29/2011, you wrote: >>HI Dark, >> >>As someone who does tech support for a living I can say I've been >>their done that. I hate to sound critical or negative about my clients >>as they pay me to help them with things, but your points are very >>valid ones. Since the introduction of graphical operating systems like >>Windows the general skill level of the average user is abismal. they >>don't know what something is called half the time and only know how to >>get their by clicking on a certain icon, and you have to describe it >>to them. Which of course changes from version to version of Windows >>and desktop theme to desktop theme. So its pretty hard for me as a >>blind user who can't see all that eye candy to help them. I usually >>have to make them read the text on the icon so they click on the right >>thing. >> >>Usually, as you pointed out, it is basic things like dragging and >>dropping files, cutting and pasting documents from folder to folder, >>that these people lack. I think in many cases they just purchased >>their computer from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Office Max, whatever turned it >>on and started pointing and clicking without any idea what in Hades >>they were doing. So as a result of any kind of training they just >>never figured out that the way they are using their computer is pretty >>limited and amateurish. Unlike Dos where you had to read a starters >>manual to do anything Windows lets them feel like they are doing >>something by clicking on icons and getting immediate results. >> >>What's this little notepad icon do? Oh, I can write text here. What's >>this little picture of a music cd do? Oh, I can play music cds with >>this program. What's this picture of a deck of cards do? Oh, its a >>game of Solitaire. That's how they find things out, and its limited as >>it doesn't really tell them how their computer works or gives them any >>real experience using all its functionality. >> >>Cheers! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On 4/29/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >> > Interestingly enough this came up recently. >> > >> > my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to >> > setup >> > an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for >> > chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. >> > >> > the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open >> something by >> > point and click and type in the boxes. >> > >> > While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, >> after it was >> > proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and >> > could >> > be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain >> > items >> > and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. >> > >> > while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know >> > enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes >> wrong and be >> > able to fix basic problems now and again, ---- such as the other >> day when my >> > laptop decided to mute itself. >> > >> > This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem >> > to >> > know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes >> > for >> > training. >> > >> > It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was >> > taught >> > just to open ms word. >> > >> > She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents >> > was a >> > folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using >> > word. >> > >> > This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and >> > storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic >> > file >> > moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open >> word, ---- none >> > of actually what was going on undernieth. >> > >> > On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying >> > to >> > fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain >> > icon. >> > >> > i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse >> > they >> > didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that >> > there >> > are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than >> > clicking >> > the desktop icon. >> > >> > A shame really, especially when things go wrong. >> > >> > Beware the grue! >> > >> > dark. >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > Tim > trouble > > "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." > --Sam Brown > > Blindeudora list owner. > To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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