I use the basic, yet best selling, xbox 360 controller as a joypad.
Unfortunately, most of the games I have don't like it much, despite
the fact that it's supposed to be fine.

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard

On 11/14/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi tom.
>
> I am okay if I don't need the sholder buttons, and can hold a gamepad with
> my index and middle fingers on the pad, and my index, middle and ring
> fingers on the buttons to the right. This is the way I used to hold Atari
> 2600, and amigar joysticks (back in the days when they had just the one fire
> button), arcade game controls and indeed pads with no shoulder buttons such
> as those on the sega mastersystem.
>
> For me, I just got too used to having for instance jump shoot and run
> activated by three different fingers, with my index or middle finger ready
> to hit other buttons for stuff like extra weapons.
>
> Take a game like mega man 4 onwards or super metroid where you need to jump
> around, slide, and dodge all while holding the fire button to have a charged
> up shot ready. that would be damnably! difficult on a joypad, indeed I've
> seen mega man guides which devote hole sections to how to do this while
> holding buttons just with the thumb!
>
> the hole process of just! using the thumb and ignoring all other fingers
> just seems utterly insane to me!
>
> As for specials, well firstly there joysticks rock! whether it's just
> holding buttons and directions, or something more complex like the motions
> in streetfighter type games where you'd need to for instance do forward,
> down, diagonal down forward and punch to perform a dragon punch, ---- all in
> a smooth flowing motion.
>
> As an interesting fact though, there is! actually  a beatemup made for pc
> keyboards exclusively.
> this was the game One must fall 2097. It was a beatemup produced for pc dos
> in 1997 where you controlled giant robots with their own stats and could
> fight in tournaments. The battles though were one on just like in mortal
> combat or streetfighter.
>
> A friend of mine sent me a preconfigured dosbox copy a couple of years ago,
> and surprisingly it plays extremely well on pc keyboard, even moves like
> activating fireballs with a half circle cross ie, right, down left punch, or
> doing Jaguar's drop attack where you could hit down and punch in mid air to
> grab your opponent off up the ground and flip them over your head.
>
> I admit the game was programmed specifically! to play on keyboards, sinse
> most pc owners at the time didn't have joypads, but I was amazed how well it
> worked even so.
>
>
> so for me, it's either a decent arcade joystick, or keyboard currently,
> though hopefully I'll be able to extend that to mouse as well.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.
>
>
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