Hi.
The big thing I like better about IE9 over 8 is that it handles
downloading a lot better. Starting a download is simpler and you don't
have those annoying things where you have to tell it that yes you want
to download the file, then reload the page and hit the download link
again just to get it to start the download. You just hit enter on the
link, then either hit ctrl+j after you hear the notification bar sound
to go to the download manager where you can choose what to do with the
download or you could just press alt+s to save or alt+r to run. Like
when Jeremy releases a new version of swamp I just press enter on the
link in the email. IE9 opens and asks me in the information bar, rather
than in a pop up dialogue like we're used to, what I want to do. I know
of that because of the information bar sound, so I just hit alt+s. If I
want to watch what the download is doing, I can hit ctrl+j to open up
the download manager similar to Firefox. I can arrow up and down the
list of downloads, and when I land on one that's in progress, for some
computers jaws actually will read it every now and then when the numbers
change, and for others it won't. I haven't figured out what makes the
difference but when it does it, it reminds me of Voiceover's interaction
with the download manager of Saphari on the mac. So anyway when the
download finished, I should be aware of that if I hear the sound that
indicates as much, even if I went off reading emails or something
instead of watching the numbers. So I can go to the start menu and type
dow, short for downloads of course, into the search box and arrow down
till I hear downloads. I hit enter there and that opens my user
account's downloads folder and, because I have set the sort order to
date modified rather than by name, do to the fact that I also have it
set to descending sort order, the just downloaded file is at the top of
the list, the first item I land on. Now I really like how easy that is.
I tried chrome, but I can't find a way to turn off the loading of
pictures. So far it looks to me like it's actually pretty darn
simplified and non configurable. I must be missing something. I went to
options but there's nothing like that in there, nor a way to make it
play sounds for page loads and other events like we're used to IE doing.
I turn off images because since I can't see them there's absolutely no
point what so ever in waiting those extra seconds for them to load.
Turning them off results in very noticeable improvements as far as page
load time goes. I do miss the status bar though. I managed to turn it
on, on my Umid MBook SE, but I don't remember how I did it. Besides,
even when on, I don't think it shows the same information as it did in
IE8, you know, waiding for page... etc.
You know, even though I did mention downloading a game here, I know
we're off topic. But you have to admit, when this list gets one of it's
frequent off topic threads going, it's usually something good. Really
though, it's a pretty in the air question, since there are plenty of
games that are played in, and that might be affected by the differences
of browsers. Also, regarding the recent discussion of Jim's hardware,
that's definitely on topic since gaming is of course affected by what
kind of hardware you try to run it on.
Speaking of which, my Umid MBook SE turned out to be very amusing as far
as a gaming computer goes. At first, it was nasty trying to play swamp
until some people on here pointed out that maybe I had graphics mode
turned on. I did, even though I can't see at all, no idea how it got
turned on. So I turned it off and it worked fine after that. Well sort
of. The touch pad is in the lid, just to the right of the screen. You
operate it with your thumb, unless you really want to stick your pointer
finger out and swipe at it that is. But it's a touch pad, not a
trackball or even one of those little rubbery things you slide your
finger on like a lot of linovo computers have that people are so happy
with because they hate the way touch pads always jump all over the place
when they're not trying to use them. Touch pads generally use heat to
figure out where you're touching them, and I don't think the one on the
Umid MBook SE is an exception. The problem is, your thumb takes up the
whole thing. This means it has a hard time perceiving movements of your
thumb since it can't really sense heat moving around on it given of
course as I said your finger's heat takes up the whole thing anyway. The
best way to get it to move around is to kind of swipe at it without
actually touching it, about a millimeter away or so. It's funny because
if you try touching it, sliding right, then lift your thumb and move
back to the left, press your thumb down on it and swipe right again,
trying to turn to the right, you actually turn left or just kind of
dance around and don't get very far. There are two buttons on the left
side of the screen which allow you to left or right click. Those work as
expected in swamp. What's surprising though is the touch screen. If you
touch the screen, you start firing your weapon. I hoped to be able to
play some of swamp with the screen, Be nice to get some use out of it
given I haven't any other use for it until I get windows 8 on the
computer that is.
Actually now that I think of it, I'm glad I raddled on about that,
because I just realized with the ability to change key config, I bet if
I set it up so that left click doesn't do anything, I might be able to
assign fire weapon to something else like space, which is what I did on
this hp anyway, to well fire my weapon. Hopefully that would allow me to
turn around on the touch screen, which isn't much bigger than a touch
pad anyway, so it should seem natural if it works other than the fact
that it'd be a touch pad on it's side facing me. lol. That computer
makes a nice gaming computer, other than the fact that it's kind of
uncomfortable to hold onto when you're using headphones, which of course
you'll need for most audio games, especially given the fact it only has
one speaker. It's practically a gameboy or something, it only weighs
0.8lbs. It has no fan. It's got a 32gb ssd, a pretty lousy one at that,
very slow at writing. It's not too awful bad at reading data I think,
though. It uses an intel atom z530, which is a dsingle core
hyperthreaded 1.6ghz processor. And it's got 1gb of ram. It fits easily
in my back pocket. Lol.
Ok, enough raddling off, even if I am on topic now since I really have
been playing around with games on that computer. It runs topspeed very
well. I'm going to install Swamp 1.8b, and the patch for it haha, and
change my keyconfig to find out if I can turn around with the touch
screen now.
Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable.
On 12/9/2011 7:27 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Dark,
No. If anything else Internet Explorer 9 is far worse than Internet
Explorer 8 for a number of reasons.
First, as I mentioned in a prior e-mail it no longer uses MSAA on
Windows 7 but uses Microsoft's new accessibility U.I. framework which
not all screen readers support yet. This means accessibility is hit or
miss depending on how up to date your screen reader is etc.
Second, Internet Explorer 9 has a lot of stuff on the screen. Not
just the multitabbed browsing--which I like--but a lot of extra tool
bars and other things that add clutter to the interface. Honestly I
hate using Internet Explorer these days because Microsoft has tried to
keep up with Firefox, Chrome, etc and their user interface is no
longer simple and straight forward.
However, the features in I.E. 9 are very much like the ribbon
controls, and is something we'll have to get use to in order to move
forward. All of the major web browsers Firefox, Chrome, Opera, etc
all have multitab web browsing so its not surprising Internet Explorer
would add features like that to compete with their competition.Unless
someone is willing to stick with I.E. 6 or 7 for the rest of their
lives they'll have to get use to the new U.I. sooner or later.
As for myself I don't use I.E. I've switched to Google Chrome because
it is A, very accessible, B, much faster, and C, the U.I. has a lot of
features packed into a simple user interface. Google is turning out to
be a great software developer, and seam willing enough to make their
products fairly accessible as they can. I guess what I like about
Chrome is its not bloated like I.E.
Cheers!
On 12/9/11, dark<d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Out of interest tom is there any bennifit to the new Ui change?
I'm using ie 8 currently because I've stil got windows xp, but frankly I
really dislike multiple tabs, and prefer just to open a window that I can
alt tab too sinse it's far more logical to me to do that.
I've noticed a trend to have lots of crap on the screen, eg, toolbars,
multiple tabs, different ree view etc, and I pretty much turn them all off,
so for me using ie 8 is pretty much like using ie 6.
I've even stil got office 2007, on one machine and 2003 on another, sinse
frankly I saw no bennifit in the newer version.
is this like the silly ribbon controls? Something we just have to get used
to, but which is ultimately just a flashy ui change that is more of an
annoyence than an upgrade?
While I always try to keep up to date software where there is a manifest
bennifit in new versions, such as Hal, winamp and 7zip, not to mention
games, other stuff (especially from microsoft), I tend to be more suspect
of.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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