Ten years? Are you really out of touch that bad?
Those things are what is on market now. The PDA thing is dead and gone.
I do think that win8 probably works better on a
phone or tablet, because of them being touch devices.
At 12:29 AM 4/4/2012, you wrote:
I aggree.
Ms likes to create something that is really
awesome then shoot themselves in the rear either
in the current os or sometimes along the way.
On that note I don't know why ms just gets rid
of its magnifier and narater and use free
opensource stuff like nvda and a magnifier it doesn't make.
Seems it would help it a load.
Ms are trying to impliment tablets into the
desktop market and I guess in 10 years or so
when every one blind included uses a tablet
touch data pad this will be second nature.
Right now though I am seriously going to just
upgrade to 7, or if I can bad and insecure that it is stay with xp.
Heck I can use vista shite that it is with classic menus!
Unfortunately I have spent to much to ever go to another os.
windows programs, readers, games, office apps, the list goes on.
If I could go back in time I'd convince myself
that all ms software was total crap and I should use macs.
ofcause I'd never play windows games, but still,
apple's tablet os seems to be better layedout than ms.
Ms unfortunately has the reputation of stuffing
up and requiring to update their stuff because its insecure.
Even uac while I like it needs certificates
which most stuff doesn't have, so its useless
for general use and better switched off.
I remember having a program back in the old dos days called interlink.
With this program and its server app inter
server,I was able to do paralel and serial backups of dammaged systems.
True it took days but it still was a good thing.
Ofcause being realtime especially on 9x systems
it slowed down loads and eventually crashed the other system.
it would also render the host system unbootable
if I didn't start the server first.
The good thing and major reason I used it was
that I could load it without speech.
my host system config may look like this.
well you know what a config.sys looks like.
I only needed a device to be set for interlnk.exe and it would be fine.
In the server end in autoexec I just needed intersvr and thats all
Sadly its not that easy now.
<sigh>
At 06:12 p.m. 3/04/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Cara,
Yes, Microsoft is working on improved
accessibility by updating Narrator to be more
like VoiceOver, but the beta I've seen still
isn't quite VoiceOver quality. Although, some
of the new voices like Microsoft David are
certainly better than some of their older Sapi voices.
They've also started the push towards UI
Automation which insures a high degree of
accessibility of apps and programs in the
future. So there are certainly improvements in Windows 8.
However, in typical Microsoft fashion they take
one step forward and two steps back in terms of
access. On one hand they have given us a much
improved version of Narrator, Speech
Recognizer, and Magnifier, but turn around and
give us a less intuitive interface. The start
screen is laid out like a table with groups and
icons in columns and rows and it makes it
difficult to actually find the program launcher
we want. We can't just press w and jump to the
Wordpad icon, but must hunt for it on the
screen or type "wordpad" in the run dialog.Its
the least accessible user interface I've seen on any modern OS to date.
On Ubuntu Linux 12, for example, in Unity we
can press alt+f1 which brings the focus to the
quick launch panel. The Launcher Panel is a
nice little area on the Unity desktop to place
quick launch icons for frequently used
applications and folders which is easier than
browsing the menus for the icons. Plus with the
addition of the quick launch panel we can now
use the super key with numbers 1through 0 to
launch apps from the quick launch panel and
bring focus to that application's window. In
short, the features showing up in Ubuntu 11 and
12 are obvious ideas borrowed from Windows 7
which are certainly good things that will pay
off accessibility wise for VI Linux users.
Anyway, I hadn't thought about picking up a
used Mac Mini or MacBook for software
development, but that is a good idea. It would
probably save me some money, and as you said
the Mac OS upgrades are cheaper than Windows
upgrades. So its something to think about once
my financial situation gets straightened out.
Cheers!
On 4/3/2012 2:00 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Hi Thomas, wow, I wasn't aware Win 8 was as crazy as that.
I thought they were supposed to be doing a big
push for accessibility and are supposedly
developing their own screen reader a'la Voiceover?
Yes?
Anyway, on the subject of Mac / iOS, remember
that all the dev tools are free so yes, it
will cost a bit up front but after that, with
the exception of your developer membership
($99 per year) everything you need to write
apps is free. Plus, the Mac OS updates are
like $29 so even that is ridiculously inexpensive! :)
If you wanted, you could also look for a
refurbished Mac Mini which would be more than
capable of running XCode. So you could use
that for your development machine. -Just some thoughts
Smiles,
Cara :)
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