Hi Dark, Interesting. I see your point, but unfortunately I pretty much know nothing about Spain's history so probably have to needlessly spend a lot of time doing research which I'd prefer avoiding if at all possible right now. As I said the game concept was suppose to be a test text adventure to get use to writing that type of game rather than a full blown RPG like Sryth. :D
Are you serious? The Dark Ages game from White Wolf is set in the 1200's? I find that extremely odd because most historians place the Dark Ages between 500 C.E. and 1000 C.E. By the 1200's Europe was well out of the Dark Ages and into the period historians call the High Middle Ages. It is called that because by the 1200's there were universities popping up across Europe, small public schools for children were just beginning to become available, and over all literacy was on the rise again. Sure there were still hold overs from the Dark Ages, something like that does not go away over night, but most historians generally do not consider the 1200's a part of the Dark Ages. So apparently White Wolf needs to recheck their historical facts. Cheers! On 9/5/12, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > Hi tom. > > I suggested spain specifically because A, it's a long way from eastern > europe, but still possessed the sort of mentality among it's nobility which > > would lead to the idea of a vampire lording it in his castle over a bunch of > > frightened villagers, (an attitude which didn't change in spain until much > later), and B, sinse up until the 15th century large parts of spain were > under the control of the tirkish empire, ---- who were actually in a lot of > > ways more advanced than the west, it also meant wars private armies and > political strife were very common indeed, as well as crusading orders of > knights riding into battle. > > No, the mours were not actually vampires of course, indeed in their ships, > their medical technology and their mathematics they were actually far ahead > > in thinking of the christians who opposed them, but the idea of a land in > the middle of foreigne rule struck me as perfect vampire teretory. > > Having studied history of medicine and philosophy specifically, my view of > the middle ages is a little different, indeed all I've read of Thomas > aquinas paints him as basically someone who was extremely clever at stating > > catholic doctrin in convoluted ways (understandable sinse he was a monk > after all), and many of the arguements attributed to him are actually pretty > > shallow, and only became prominant because of later, more complex and less > catholic centered versions of the arguements during the enlightenment by > people like spinoza and descarte. > > In terms of technological advances, even political advances, the time was > far too ruled over by repeated wars and superstician, which is in fact of > course why we call the period after! the middle ages the renaesance, sinse > only then was there A, enough stability, and B, enough freedom of thought to > > start making advances in social and technological matters, ---- not the > least due to rediscovery of griek and roman ideas such as having actual > toilets! > > The way I've always understood it, it's actually one of the largest jokes in > > british political history that the "magnacarta" which supposedly repealed > serfdom actually had very little impact on the lives or treatment of > peasants at all, and was far more an excuse for various British nobles to > get extra power and independence from the King, thus leading almost directly > > into the wars of the roses. > > Of course, as you said yourself, all this is a fertile setting for a vampire > > game, sinse the idea of an isolated noble with almost absolute power over > their own estate is central to a lot of vampire conceptions, and the lack! > of scientific methodology or explanation makes great grounds for characters > > who really use supernatural or magical powers, and a populous who are afraid > > of such powers, indeed this is why the dark ages game from whitewolf's > tabletop rpg system is set in the 12 hundreds. > > > All the best, > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
