true, I have never actually bothered trying to look though, or
stopped to ask if they are really worth the trouble of actually doing
anything with.
At 12:04 PM 3/31/2013, you wrote:
Get real. The reason you would bother with them is that people play
them. Don't you realize that just because you personally think they
are worth anything, not everyone shares your opinion?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "shaun everiss" <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator message - Inquiry From Popular Mechanics
why would you even want to bother with the windows games?
Lets see most of them are card games and a chess game 3d pinball
and some other junk.
Sadly these are just crappy games from ms which come with the os.
We have most of those games and unlike the ms ones they are
accessable and probably not crap.
spoonbil has soliteer in various formats as well as other stuff.
jim kitchen has more stuff.
we have both the quentin c and rs games clients doing card games.
we have esp pinbal and the extreem version, we have mine sweeper
both by the makers of night of parasite, and gma.
we have blindadrenaline we have all in play.
We have basically all ms games that were preinstalled on windows,
even the sighted think of them as crap, basic and simple and no one
really plays them.
my point, we have enough games we have made our selves that are
superior to the ones windows has even the oldest games by jim
kitchen are superior.
At 04:11 AM 3/31/2013, you wrote:
I have requested that Freedom Scientific do some work on getting
the games that come with Windows accessible. I have also
contacted Microsoft on this so that they and FS might work
together. I hate the attitude of FS. They, in no uncertain terms,
let me know that jaws, after all, stands for "Job! access! with
speech". I asked them how many of their customers use their
computers at home? And how many of those computers already have
the Windows games installed? And if they knew how many people
play those games? They are not at all interested in the
project. Between organizations like this, and rehab, I get
furiously disgusted.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator message - Inquiry From Popular Mechanics
Hi Charles,
Well, we can certainly hope. As you say Popular Mechanics is
redistributed via NLS and perhaps more blind and visually impaired
people will here about us. However, there is a bigger hope that
mainstream game developers will take notice of a growing community of
blind people who are looking fore more and more accessible games. If
nothing else I think people who know someone who is blind will go
online and give them some games to play.
It amazes me how many blind people who are out there who have
computers and are still in the dark when it comes to computer games. I
suppose part can be blamed on the rehab centers which buy them, show
them Jaws, and don't mention there are games and things to do, or even
worse tell them specifically that the system is to be used for work
and not play.
Case in point. A few years ago I was contacted by a blind woman in my
area who does medical transcription at the hospital. Well, she has a
computer, and she was just looking for a few simple games like Uno,
Solitare, Hearts, etc and didn't have any idea that the Spoonbill and
Jim Kitchen games existed. I installed them on her home machine, for
which she was greatful, but I didn't do anything the local BSVI rehab
tech ould have done when he gave it to her to begin with. All because
rehab tends to see computers simply as tools for work rather than the
multipurpose device it is.
Anyway, my hope is that more people will hear about us and will join
in the fun. They need more resources than rehab centers that aren't
too interested in making their clients aware of games and other things
to do besides running Word, Powerpoint, Outlook, and Jaws.
Cheers!
On 3/30/13, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
Right. I totally understand why she was on the list for a short
time rather
than becoming a subscriber. One thought I do have, though, is this:
Popular Mechanics is produced for the Library of Congress Talking Book
program. I'm thinking that some blind readers might not know that such
games exist, and they will check this out. Also, parents, relatives and
friends of potential gamers might check into it for their blind family
members or friends because of this article. We can always hope, right?
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