On 03/02/14 14:05, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 03/02/14 07:10, Bernard Li wrote: >> Hi Daniel: >> >> I have participated in GSoC as a mentor in 2005 and 2006 but in recent >> years have not participated due to difficulty in getting selected as a >> mentoring organization. >> >> My sense is that unless you are one of the big umbrella projects such >> as Apache or Debian, it is almost impossible to get picked. > > Google seems to favor the big projects, here are some of my own guesses > about it: > - more mentors, more capacity to handle more students > - less relationships for Google to maintain (150 big projects instead of > 1500 little ones) > - Google employees involved in the big projects (not suggesting this is > a bad thing or that they use this influence inappropriately, but having > those connections, they presumably get more insight into how well their > money is spent) > - the mentor summit has a maximum capacity of about 300 people (2 per > project) > > On the other hand, Debian had 16 projects funded in 2013. Several of > the students contributed work to upstream projects and collaborating > throughout the wider free software community is not prohibited. It may > well be possible for Ganglia to try to align with one of the big > organisations like Debian if we don't get chosen directly. > > >> >> I definitely think GSoC is a worthwhile endeavour and I would be >> willing to help as mentor and/or administrator. We could certainly >> drum up some interesting projects for students. >> >> Please let me know if you are interested in putting together an >> application for Ganglia -- I would be willing to help. The deadline >> for Mentoring Organization application is 2/14. > > > I would be willing to help as part of a mentoring team (e.g. if I am not > the only point of contact for the student(s)) > > I would also be willing to help communicate with the Debian admin team about > a) whether Debian would vouch for Ganglia as a reputable organisation > (this helps our chances of being selected outright) > b) whether or not a student could work under the Debian umbrella if > Ganglia is not an official organisation > > Bernard, if both you and I are interested, then we probably need at > least one more person willing to mentor and then we can make an application. > > I suspect that they will look at things like: > a) overall number of projects we can mentor (e.g. just 1 student or 5 > students?) > b) ratio of mentors to students (having 1.5 or 2 mentors per student > provides more continuity, minimises risk if a mentor can't continue) > c) previous experience (2 of us as far as I know) > > We should also think about any other big projects we could align with. > In particular, if any big project uses Ganglia to monitor their > infrastructure, that makes it more interesting for them to take us under > their wing (Debian uses Munin) >
Just some further comments on project ideas We can't really make it just our own wish list - some of the things are quite hard When students are asked to work on the core elements of projects, if the work is not really up to the required standard it becomes more effort for the project to integrate it or it doesn't even get used Asking the students to work on new modules and web stuff is potentially a lot less stressful. These interfaces are loosely coupled and the student can work somewhat independently without us having to worry about merging their work. We could also reach out to related projects like rrdtool. One idea I had was that we could ask a student to make an R plugin to read RRDs and then the student could try and perform some statistical analysis on the RRDs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Ganglia-developers mailing list Ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ganglia-developers
