Thank you Xavier. 

Can you give me an example of the gmond.conf that is located on the
cluster "Application Servers"? 

Are there any changes needed in the gmond.conf on the gmetad server to
allow "Application Servers" to be collected?

I think we are getting closer to my problem... thanks all for the help.

Ron Cavallo 
Sr. Director, Infrastructure
Saks Fifth Avenue / Saks Direct
12 East 49th Street
New York, NY 10017
212-451-3807 (O)
212-940-5079 (fax) 
646-315-0119(C) 
www.saks.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Xavier Stevens [mailto:xstev...@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:25 AM
To: ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Need help configuring clusters to use
separate multicast IP

Ron,

You will probably want to configure it to check more than 1 machine per
cluster. That way if that machine is the one that goes down you don't
lose visibility into the whole cluster.

So here's an example I pulled from our gmetad server (changed the
hostnames of course):

data_source "Application Servers" app1
data_source "Databases" db1
data_source "ETL" etl1
data_source "Elastic Search Cluster" elasticsearch1 elasticsearch2
data_source "Research Cluster" admin1 admin2
gridname "Mozilla Metrics"

I should note that each data source is on different multicast channels,
but we always use the default port (8649) for gmond.

Hopefully this helps!

Cheers,


-Xavier


On 3/23/11 8:12 AM, Ron Cavallo wrote:
> I see. So I need a separate IP AND A SEPARATE PORT. Got it.
>
> Also, I use a single gmond in each cluster to aggregate the single
> cluster. I configure the gmetad to talk to only gmond from each
cluster.
> Is that wrong?
>
> -RC
>
> Ron Cavallo 
> Sr. Director, Infrastructure
> Saks Fifth Avenue / Saks Direct
> 12 East 49th Street
> New York, NY 10017
> 212-451-3807 (O)
> 212-940-5079 (fax) 
> 646-315-0119(C) 
> www.saks.com
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Seth Graham [mailto:set...@fnal.gov] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:06 AM
> To: Ron Cavallo
> Cc: Bernard Li; ganglia-general@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Ganglia-general] Need help configuring clusters to use
> separate multicast IP
>
>
> That might work, but I don't think anyone sets up their ganglia so
that
> a single gmond is trying aggregate all clusters. That's what the
gmetad
> daemon is for. 
>
> Also note that even though you have a separate multicast address for
> each cluster, the port still has to be unique. The port is what gmetad
> and the web frontend use to distinguish between clusters. You get
really
> weird results if multiple data_source lines use the same port.
>
>
> An ideal configuration might be:
>
> Each of the 5 clusters has a unique gmond.conf, with its own multicast
> address and port number.
>
> The gmetad host has 5 data_source lines to query one host from each of
> the 5 clusters.
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Ron Cavallo wrote:
>
>> I need some help. I am trying to configure my gmetad to collect from
>> different clusters on different IP's. I have 5 clusters. This is my
>> gmetad collections server's local gmond.conf configuration:
>>
>>
>> /* Feel free to specify as many udp_send_channels as you like.  Gmond
>>   used to only support having a single channel */
>> udp_send_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.72
>>  port = 8649
>>  ttl = 1
>> }
>>
>> /* You can specify as many udp_recv_channels as you like as well. */
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.71
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.71
>> }
>>
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.72
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.72
>> }
>>
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.73
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.73
>> }
>>
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.74
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.74
>> }
>>
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.75
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.75
>> }
>>
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  port = 8649
>> }
>>
>> This is an excerpt from ONE OF THE CLUSTERS ABOVE (the .74 cluster)
>>
>> /* Feel free to specify as many udp_send_channels as you like.  Gmond
>>   used to only support having a single channel */
>> udp_send_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.74
>>  port = 8649
>>  ttl = 1
>> }
>>
>> /* You can specify as many udp_recv_channels as you like as well. */
>> udp_recv_channel {
>>  mcast_join = 239.2.11.74
>>  port = 8649
>>  bind = 239.2.11.74
>> }
>>
>> I configure only one server in a cluster to be polled from the gmetad
>> since that server has all of the cluster members information in it
>> anyway. Here is how I have it configured to talk to the one gmond
> shown
>> directly above:
>>
>> data_source "SaksGoldApps" 45 sd1mzp01lx.saksdirect.com:8649
>>
>>
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