Thomas F. Burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just saw the announcement of this list, and some discussion from
> earlier about GUI toolkits.  I'd like to recommend to any Lisp newbies
> who are interested in portable GUIs to look at Ltk.  The goal of the
> project was to be portable to all major operating systems and all
> major Common Lisps, and to make it simple to write conventional GUIs.

To be honest, I don't like Tk. This is no rational thing -- so please
don't feel offended by my statement -- but it's emotional. I never
used a program coded with Tk, simply because I dislike it's look and
feel. It does not feel "natural", nor does it appeal my perfect font
gylphs fetishism. I've your are used to Tk, you probably can't follow
this "reasoning", but probably this feeling turns up for you when
imaging one of this toolkits: 
Swing, AWT, Athena, McCLIM, Motif.

I looked at the screenshots of Ltk and found that it's look and feel
hasn't changed. I was surprised to see nice Aqua screenshots for OS X
(although I'd like to see the line drawing done with good anti-aliasing
algorithms like those in the cairo graphics lib). So, probably there is
also a more modern look for X11? I was thinking about Tk on GTK, or Tk 
on QT. Googling this failed. (I hope that's just because of bad googling,
otherwise I doubt that I can work on such a project simply because I
don't want to look at it.)

Best Regards,
-- 
Fruhwirth Clemens - http://clemens.endorphin.org 
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