On 12/16/05, Clemens Fruhwirth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To be honest, I don't like Tk. This is no rational thing -- so please
> don't feel offended by my statement -- but it's emotional. I never
> used a program coded with Tk, simply because I dislike it's look and
> feel. It does not feel "natural", nor does it appeal my perfect font
> gylphs fetishism. I've your are used to Tk, you probably can't follow
> this "reasoning", but probably this feeling turns up for you when
> imaging one of this toolkits:
> Swing, AWT, Athena, McCLIM, Motif.
>
> I looked at the screenshots of Ltk and found that it's look and feel
> hasn't changed. I was surprised to see nice Aqua screenshots for OS X
> (although I'd like to see the line drawing done with good anti-aliasing
> algorithms like those in the cairo graphics lib). So, probably there is
> also a more modern look for X11? I was thinking about Tk on GTK, or Tk
> on QT. Googling this failed. (I hope that's just because of bad googling,
> otherwise I doubt that I can work on such a project simply because I
> don't want to look at it.)
>

Indeed, Tk looks very native on Aqua. But have you checked out the
Tile engine?  (Theming for Tk, contains e.g. a gtk theme) Ltk has some
support for it.
Anyway, while its beauty may very with the platforms, Tk has a very
powerful widget set and the nicest layout managers I have encountered
so far. But the main advantage of Ltk is, that it is ready to use :).
While it is under active development, it is stable and in commercial
use.
If one day a viable Lisp binding for QT comes up, I would be very
happy, because I can clearly see applications for that, but if a
lisper looks for an easy toolkit that is usable right now, then Ltk
deserves a look :)

Peter
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