On 12/30/05, Troels Henriksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
tin gherdanarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anybody in the know here?

I am not a lawyer, and I have not employed the service of one, but I
suspect that LispWorks has. Their copy of the HyperSpec should have
a legally correct license clause:

http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/Help.htm#Legal

Unfortunately, the license includes two highly problematic clauses:

* Permissions related to performance and to creation of derivative
  works are expressly NOT granted.
* Permission to make modified copies is expressly NOT granted.

Just what we need! BAD!

Now to something entirely different. A glance on WikiMedia, the software
that powers the wikipedia, is written in PHP and uses MySQL. Somehow
this is not a good recommendation for a bunch of lispniks. I think it's better
to use the CLiki software. What's amazing is that Fare (of tunes.org fame)
has switched to wikimedia, at least that's what a department on his site
looks like now.

So while I agree with you that an updated, annotateable HyperSpec
(perhaps with cross-implementation compatibility notes) would be a
great boon to the community, I'm afraid such a thing will not happen,
unless LispWorks can be convinced to release the HyperSpec under a
more liberal license. On the bright side, I don't see why they should
be opposed to such a thing - the creation of derivative HyperSpecs
wouldn't exactly cut into their profits in any way I can think of, and
I assume it would be in the interest of every Lisp vendor, to make it
easier to find documentation for the language.

I will ask them.  If  I fail we could start a riot or something.
Or maybe somebody more reputitious should ask first. Like Paul Graham
or Peter Seibel. Meanwhile, I will tinker with CLiki. Wish me luck.

 

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