Robert, I haven't got any thoughts on Hugelkultur I'm sorry to say. Actually, never heard of it before !

Clay won't get you any mileage. You want basalt dust. The fines are an unwanted by-product fromn a quarry. You want it as fine as possible, like talc actually and what buy from a quarry will have some of this, but only a small percentage. The bulk will be maybe 2 - 3mm, pretty small and it will work, but the smaller the better. Bacteria are surface feeders and the smaller the particle, the greater the surface area and therefore the higher the pupulation of bacteria you can support. To get a good result from rock dust, you should use it with compost.

DJM.

On 09/12/2013 4:22 PM, Robert Deutsch wrote:

Rock dust is a by-product of rock crushing plants, I think granite is preferred dust for Ag use (could be wrong on that point).

*From:*Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Davis
*Sent:* Monday, December 09, 2013 12:10 PM
*To:* Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
*Subject:* Re: [Gasification] Biochar et al.

David,


I really hate to ask this but how does one make rock dust? Kind of sounds like clay. Could I dig clay out of a pond and spray it on my compost pile?

What's your thought on Hugelkultur?



Thanks,
Jeff





On 12/07/2013 11:15 PM, David Murphy wrote:

    Joe, you might find it of interest to look
    up John D. Hamaker on the net.  He was an
    American Mechanical Engineer who turned his
    mind (and subsequently devoted his life) to
    improving soil by the addition of rock
    dust.    He saw global warming as a
    precursor to the next ice age.  He saw an
    ice age as essential refurbishment of the
    earth's resources.     His argument has a
    lot of good solid logioc to it and it's
    worth adding to your store of knowledge on
    the general topic.     If he's proven right,
    then we're in a lot of trouble !    If you
    want to study it further I have a DVD I made
    from a tape he produced I could let you have.

    Rock dust is a storehouse of minerals, all
    of which are essential to growth.    First
    to plants and then to the animals which eat
    them - including us humans.   Rock dust is
    insoluble to water but not to enzymes which
    are produced by soil benevolent bacteria -
    bacteria which are present in soil with good
    OM and in compost.     Many readers of this
    string will be aware of it's benefits when
    used as fertiliser.

    Seeking to remedy climate change purported
    to be caused by anthropomorphic global
    warming is an extraordinarily complex
    question.   And seeking to make a
    contribution by sequestering carbon as
    charcoal is in itself another complex range
    of issues.     The charcoal must be first
    ligneos carbon - wood - and it is probably
    almost as good to lock up some of that
    carbon in timber for building houses or
    making furniture.

    I'd promote the first step by making the
    sequestration of the carbon as part of a
    broader program of building building soil
    organic matter OM.   This includes animate
    carbon as well as vegetative.     At least
    get it up to 5% to plough depth, say 10
    inches (250mm) as a minimum, aiming at 20%.
    That in itself locks away a lot of carbon,
    but of a different nature, in that it's
    available to contribute to plant growth,
    growth without the need for chemical or
    artificial fertilisers.

    Every 1% increase in soil OM (world wide)
    would be a lockup of around 30 billion
    tonnes of carbon in  a world which generates
    now (probably) 20 million tonnes
    annually.    Just for the record, the
    biggest emitter of CO2, bigger than every
    other agency combined - every factory,
    airplane, car truck tractor etc and so on -
is the soil of the earth as it respires. So, the more land we put down under crop to
    feed the increasing billions, the more CO2
    we produce and put into the atmosphere.

    So, it's a race against a proven runner - so
    called mother Nature - and she's a proven
    stayer.

    On the other hand, some of the wise owls are
    now saying it's not CO2 at all, but PCB's
    causing the damage.   Maybe they're right -
    who knows _for sure ?_    Nobody I'm aware
    of despite what they say.    It's all
    conjecture, some of it soundly based, but
    still conjecture relying on historical info
    compiled over a geological blink.

    Using charcoal and zeolite together is a bit
    like wearing belt & braces with
    self-supporting trousers.     It certainly
    works !

    The easy and less costly way is to just get
    the OM into the soil and plant stuff to grow
    and suck up all the CO2 and N.

    But whatever you do, don't stop the good work.

    David Murphy.



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